tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4506868496663273256.post9219839032647595671..comments2023-07-04T09:54:15.920-05:00Comments on Our Town and Its Business: WHY OH WHY?Evelyn Buckhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03283458715658096750noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4506868496663273256.post-88389773987201814692015-06-06T13:39:22.482-05:002015-06-06T13:39:22.482-05:008:49- deductible or not...we always end up paying....8:49- deductible or not...we always end up paying. All levels of government will make sure of that. Regardless of any of that, Evelyn has paid and continues to pay for this Towns BS and FU's.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4506868496663273256.post-581531947534567952015-06-06T08:49:21.960-05:002015-06-06T08:49:21.960-05:00In any of these lawsuits (provincial or yours) isn...In any of these lawsuits (provincial or yours) isn't there a deductible that must be paid ie by the taxpayersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4506868496663273256.post-13573589982883865042015-06-05T18:17:10.191-05:002015-06-05T18:17:10.191-05:00No, KA-NON, it's not a "more accurate ana...No, KA-NON, it's not a "more accurate analogy" - it's still a liability issue versus a defamation one.<br /><br />It would appear that that particular naked, political manoeuvre worked, right? The raw rookies ran rings around the savvy veteran. The stupid, paranoid Mormac faction went hammer-and-tongs in attacking then-Cllr Buck (that's where your "shame on them" should be applied). The reprehensible campaign waged against then-Cllr Buck was fuelled by a massive insecurity complex, I'd venture.<br /><br />Mormac tried far too hard - to distraction, in fact - without success in sidelining their target. Subsequently, the following term saw the new members quickly deem Evelyn Buck to be more hindrance than help. She ended up just as marginalized, just without all the vitriol and nasty, blatant machinations.<br /><br />"Entirely conspicuous by its absence is your attempt to justify your position on the merits of the case that prompted the suit in the first place."<br /><br />Irrelevant to the basic argument that I was making. <br /><br />"The treatment that Evelyn received...was appalling."<br /><br />Agreed. She had my sympathy during that ordeal.<br /><br />"Not only did she have the right to sue (as you acknowledge) but I would argue the obligation."<br /><br />Uh, no, you can't argue that. There was no "obligation" - period, full-stop.<br /><br />"...the countless others who were fired, shouted at, berated, forced to resign..."<br /><br />How many of those "countless others" decided to initiate legal action? See, there goes your obligation argument out the window, again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4506868496663273256.post-426611610014092602015-06-05T07:30:01.323-05:002015-06-05T07:30:01.323-05:00@18:19 In my initial drafting of the liability sce...@18:19 In my initial drafting of the liability scenario, I had the town employee ramming your car on purpose. That may be a more accurate analogy.<br /><br />In my opinion, your framing of Evelyn's suit as a financial burden foisted on the town is just as vacuous now as it was when it was originally cast, by the Mayor and his deputy. (To the extent that their naked political manouveurs may have had an impact on the election results is an embarassing shame on them, in my opinion.) Entirely conspicuous by its absence is your attempt to justify your position on the merits of the case that prompted the suit in the first place.<br /><br />The treatment that Evelyn received which prompted her legal action was appalling. Not only did she have the right to sue (as you acknowledge) but I would argue the obligation. Someone needed to stand up to the bullying that was going on during that term. That it was Evelyn as opposed to the countless others who were fired, shouted at, berated, forced to resign should not surprise you or anyone else. <br /> KA-NONnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4506868496663273256.post-71206395614496151052015-06-04T18:19:50.137-05:002015-06-04T18:19:50.137-05:00I never made any such suggestion, KA-NON. In fact,...I never made any such suggestion, KA-NON. In fact, I stated that no one would deny ex-Cllr Buck her right to bring suit against whomever.<br /><br />Your 'what if' liability insurance claim scenario is apples-and-oranges in relation to commencing litigation over a perceived loss of reputation.<br /><br />Also, I'm not a long-standing member of council with a reputation for watching the taxpayers' pennies. I'm not a vocal opponent of so many budget line items, either, failing to vote in favour of every Town Budget. I don't attempt to strike a righteous pose while looking to claim some moral high ground as the champion of the 'little guy.'<br /><br />Most of all, with all that reputation for parsimony, I didn't decide to put private interests before the public purse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4506868496663273256.post-43432085472182940752015-06-04T14:47:23.287-05:002015-06-04T14:47:23.287-05:00@12:38 I can't believe that you are serious to...@12:38 I can't believe that you are serious to suggest that Evelyn consider surrendering her rights to recourse on the basis that the town's insurance costs might go up as a result. That is absolutely idiotic thinking. Let's say that a town vehicle ran a stop sign, and plowed into your car. Would you not make a claim on the basis that the town's vehicle insurance costs might go up? Of course not. <br /><br />Honestly, people get themselves so twisted up in logical knots on here trying to make a point or win an argument. KA-NONnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4506868496663273256.post-56361248611760415602015-06-04T12:38:41.064-05:002015-06-04T12:38:41.064-05:00"The previous to last comment takes the posit... "The previous to last comment takes the position my decision to litigate was wrong."<br /><br />If you're referring to the following, you've got the wrong end of the stick: "The "so-called defamation thingee" was also a choice, and WRONG on every level you can think of."<br /><br />That sentence describes the Mormac SLAPP suit against Hogg, Johnson, Bishenden, et al. as being "WRONG."<br /><br />No one would deny you your right to sue. You're correct, it was your decision to make, yours alone. But, and it's a big but, you also can't deny the 'optics' of incongruity regarding a self-proclaimed 'champion of the taxpayer' pursuing a course that causes increased expense for the Town. Someone can be well within their (legal) rights and still look like a hypocrite.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4506868496663273256.post-33260354580199060352015-06-04T11:49:50.606-05:002015-06-04T11:49:50.606-05:009:00- What opposition?9:00- What opposition?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4506868496663273256.post-61628735390724513322015-06-04T09:00:00.573-05:002015-06-04T09:00:00.573-05:00It was all slipped past during the last election b...It was all slipped past during the last election because the opposition completely fudged their campaign, Our mayor was not required to answer any WHy questions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4506868496663273256.post-50540026519678317372015-06-03T23:38:36.840-05:002015-06-03T23:38:36.840-05:00The Liberals have lost billions of tax payers mone...The Liberals have lost billions of tax payers money, and then end up with a majority gov't. What's a million or 2 in a municipality. Chump change! When only 30% of the electorate vote, those are the only ones that they answer too. The next market hit will be a doozie, there will be a record turn out in the polls the and questions like "why" and "how"will be demanded. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com