Sharon Brookes has left a new comment on your post "Cowardy,Cowardy
Custard":
Councillor Buck , I hate to agree with this last post, but
I had the same thought. Even though you make many important comments or
presentations to council meetings, you can drag on or go off topic. Ms. Gaertner
is an entirely different issue.
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Sharon...Thank you for your name andexpression of reluctance to agree that I can drag on and go off topic.
I am not what I do not claim to be.
No doubt you are right.
Depending on your generation, what I have to say, may seem like dragging on and going off topic.
You might agree, extent and years of involvement might have something to contribute to the situation.
It means I have to exercise more discipline. I have to choose between many points to make in a debate.
We do tend to be our own worst critics.A debate means being able to think on one's feet, so-to-speak and respond to points made.
Sometimes, as many as five have spoken before my turn .
It means retaining points made by others so as not to miss the opportunity to refute.The objective is to persuade.
It's easier to exercise discipline when order is being maintained
by the presiding member.
Nothing is more distracting or exasperating than to be interrupted by spurious points of order; a member disagree with a point being made, thinks a point of order.is in order. It is not.
A competent chair,maintains order throughout. Seldom should a point of order be necessary from the floor.
A consistent reminder from the chair to speak to the question. helps all members to acquire discipline.
A member being accused of not telling the truth, is a breach of order.
The chair's failure to call the member to order and require the comment be withdrawn is an equally egregious.
A question directed by the chair for the Clerk to answer. The Clerk obliged to observe the obvious ." there is no answer" is a failure of the chair.
The chair alone has responsibility for maintaining order.
It takes confidence, experience, knowledge, skill, impartiality and consistency to do the job properly.
If these skills are missing, there's no advantage for any member to observe the rules
Council meetings become a free-for-all .
I don't apologise for using past experience to support an argument.
Those who share my experience appreciateit. I am not alone in the community I serve.
At the same time I know Councillors with no background in the town's affairs are extremely conscious and threatenedby the fact.
I have been informed the past has no relevance
.I don't accept that.
While the presiding member flails hopelessly and helplessly at the job of maintaining order, it's natural to look for people to blame. .
It's not admirable.
Things do not improve.
Next time a ruling is challenged, support needed for a vote of confidence may fail to emerge. .
It's not a good place to be.
We do the best we can in the circumstances.
Sometimes we do it right.
Sometimes we don't.
Is the meeting tonight to be ' steamed 'as promised ? And, if not, what seems to be the hold-up ?
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