Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Check this out":
Are you proposing something similar for Aurora
Posted by Anonymous to Our Town and Its Business at 31 July 2014 11:0
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The link was sent to me ,I assume in response to the question I did not ask at the phoney baloney
election of a candidate to fill the vacant seat.
I am amazed and certainly impressed with the sculptures in various cities around the world.
Would I like to see something like that in Aurora? Without a doubt?
Is it a practical suggestion? I wish I knew. I do think it's a good topic of conversation.
A policy has a been adopted for a percentage of funding to pay for public art.
How much would something like that cost. Who would decide it is art and not a huge unfunny joke perpetrated against us local yokels.
Is there support in the community for something like that? Can that be determined without spending an arm and a leg to find out but not really?
If we think $27 million dollars is. reasonable to pay for a garage and works yard, what would a
spectacular, world attraction in public art be worth?
Could we afford it?
When my grandchildren were little we went to the Village of Clairmont in Uxbridge I think at Hallowe'en.
Imagination was the only limit to amazing depictions of scary scenes on residents lawns and roofs and verandahs on old and modern homes.
It was a terrific outing.
We went again but it wasn't there any more.
I imagine a single resident or group had made it happen and they got tired
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I think, as I am writing, if we wanted to draw attention. to ourselves ,it would be a fail safe way of s
doing it.
The big question would be cost / returns.
Thursday, 31 July 2014
Cat Got Your Tongue
Hardly a word about Council's choice to fill the vacant seat. I M told the twitosphere is equally silent.
My reader numbers took a slight leap back to norm.indicating interest in what was being said. But nothing was.
For the same, reason I guess no reasons, were given for anyone's choice when the deed was done.
The format recommend by staff and adopted by Council excluded opportunity.
It did provide opportunity for Councillors to ask questions. Except for Councillor Pirrie who asked each candidate if they were available to take the seat immediately. And myself ,who spent late and early hours composing questions , Nobody else took up the chance for further discovery.
Not a. Peep. Not a word....Not a dickey bird.
Candidates. answers revealed nothing.The questions were pointed. Candidates could not afford to give answers without risk of offending just about everybody else around the table.
That aspect of the format was useless.
Questions are a regular part of all -candidate meetings for elections.
But this was not that.
This was appointment..
The outward trappings were and were seen to be ,nothing more than a facade hiding a charade, obscuring but not quite , a mockery and an insult to all present.
All- candidate meetings are nor organized by municipal bureaucracy.They haven't been since the
seventies. . And then they were organized by the municipal Clerk who was statutory officer and Elections officer.
Nomination meetings were held, names were moved and seconded and written on a chalk board.
Candidates for Mayor had four minutes to speak ,candidates for council had ,two. School Board candidates had their time and Hydro Commissioners as well .
Wells Street school auditorium would be filled to capacity ,with people in the hall and spilling down the steps outside.
Elections were held every twelve months.
People tended not to make promises they were not likely to be able to keep.
They were different days. Better days.
Rules set by the Elections officer,who was also municipal clerk and municipal treasurer and Chief Factotum ,were always the same and understood by all.
There was no room for varied interpretation or opportunity for a Council to vote and adopt a procedure that suited their purpose.
The law was the law, the clerk and elections officer had authority beyond Council and there was no opportunity for varying interpretations or debate on the issue.
Since that ended ,one official candidate meeting has been organized by Library staff but politicians still have have no say in the format.
Nor should they.
I will not re-hash my reasons for opposition to the format recommended by the administration except to repeat what Council had to do was appoint not elect.
It is what we did.
The format we used merely set up a cruel illusion of open competition.
It sucked people in to thinking there was an opportunity..
It was disrespectful.
Tt was empty.
It lacked dignity.
Citizens who accepted the town's were degraded by the process.
There was no opportunity for. nomination and seconding. No arguments of advantage or liability.
Essential tension of decision-making was non-existent.
In a public forum one cannot argue the merits of one individual over another. or alternately point out deficits.
There was no opportunity, to arrive at consensus . No chance to make the decision unanimous and provide assurance to the community, the person chosen had complete support of Council.
The appointee to fill the seat vacated by an elected Councillor can claim no such confidence.
The community similarly has no such assurance.
The process failed all tests.
the silence greeting the appointment is mute testimony to the fact.
Wednesday, 30 July 2014
Like I said
I missed Charlie Rose last night. Had to be at the town hall. The guest on Monday's show was particularly interesting. I'm still thinking about the conversation.
Jeff Koone is a New York City artist currently exhibiting in a gallery. He doesn't do anything in a manner expected.
Inflatable toys, flowers and a stack of play dough are featured in the collection. Originally he cast in stainless steel then switched to aluminum.
He does not craft the objects himself. Teams of people at various work sites , one in Germany, create the moulds and fashion the finished object working in such close harmony with himself as to craft exactly what he intends.
He was the guest for the full hour. No commercial interruptions. Queries answered with full and articulate responses.His childhood, education,career and influence were part of the exchange.
He told of meeting famous artists like Salvador Dali and their generous influence on a young playing ands canvas artist.
But the artist who made the greatest impression did his best work in his late eighties and early nineties .
To which he attributed the freedom and confidence that comes with a full, long life, a great body of knowledge combined with accumulated life experience and learning.
As I watched and listened , I was composing questions for candidates in the phoney-baloney
election Council staged on Tuesday.
I thought of asking ... What do you think oF Art in Public Spaces?
Last week on T.V. I saw art forms exhibited in the median of Payne Avenue in New York City.
It was both startling and amazing and I would love to see it on the medians in Aurora.
It certainly would not be forgotten or inexpensive.Yet how realistic is that idea.
I wasn't sure it was a fair question to ask without time to think or without knowing what I thought of it myself.
Now that I think of it , it seems I might have missed an opportunity to raise the issue and get some feedback from the community in a different way than the usual $70.thousand consultant study that hears from about thirty people.
It might also have made more sense than what we were about on Tuesday afternoon.More people than that were in the Council Chamber.
I have said previously in this space, the election process was a sham to obscure the reality the
candidate of choice was already pre-determined.
I believe my point has been made.
Jeff Koone is a New York City artist currently exhibiting in a gallery. He doesn't do anything in a manner expected.
Inflatable toys, flowers and a stack of play dough are featured in the collection. Originally he cast in stainless steel then switched to aluminum.
He does not craft the objects himself. Teams of people at various work sites , one in Germany, create the moulds and fashion the finished object working in such close harmony with himself as to craft exactly what he intends.
He was the guest for the full hour. No commercial interruptions. Queries answered with full and articulate responses.His childhood, education,career and influence were part of the exchange.
He told of meeting famous artists like Salvador Dali and their generous influence on a young playing ands canvas artist.
But the artist who made the greatest impression did his best work in his late eighties and early nineties .
To which he attributed the freedom and confidence that comes with a full, long life, a great body of knowledge combined with accumulated life experience and learning.
As I watched and listened , I was composing questions for candidates in the phoney-baloney
election Council staged on Tuesday.
I thought of asking ... What do you think oF Art in Public Spaces?
Last week on T.V. I saw art forms exhibited in the median of Payne Avenue in New York City.
It was both startling and amazing and I would love to see it on the medians in Aurora.
It certainly would not be forgotten or inexpensive.Yet how realistic is that idea.
I wasn't sure it was a fair question to ask without time to think or without knowing what I thought of it myself.
Now that I think of it , it seems I might have missed an opportunity to raise the issue and get some feedback from the community in a different way than the usual $70.thousand consultant study that hears from about thirty people.
It might also have made more sense than what we were about on Tuesday afternoon.More people than that were in the Council Chamber.
I have said previously in this space, the election process was a sham to obscure the reality the
candidate of choice was already pre-determined.
I believe my point has been made.
Tuesday, 29 July 2014
Not in the Sistine Chapel,...that's fore sure
KA-NON has left a new comment on your post "It's No Small Thing":
There were three legitimate possibilities. 1) Hold a bi-election, 2) Council appoints, in a manner that protects the dignity of any interested parties and council & 3) The seat is left open for the duration of the term. I would have preferred option 3, followed by option 2, and would never support option 1 at this late stage of the term.
The process that is being followed is a shameful farce, and is probably being pursued to avoid the sort of backlash that followed Cllr. Gallo's appointment in the last term.
Would it be possible to amend our governing bylaw to introduce a formulaic solution to this sort of situation, which would prescribe the approach in any given situation? It might not be a simple, single formula, but rather it may recognize what point in the term the seat becomes open and invoke an appropriate method.
For example,
- if in 1st year of the term, offer the seat to the failed candidates at the last election, in descending order of votes,
- if in year 2-3, hold a bi-election,
- if in first 6 months of year 4, council appoints,
- if in last 6 months of term, leave the seat empty.
Something like that would avoid all of the nonsense and awkward shenanigans that the current, ad-hoc process presents
Posted by KA-NON to Our Town and Its Business at 29 July 2014 07:59
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Provincial regulation governs the process. By elections are not allowed within ninety days of the municipal election.
Council is required to fill the vacant seat even for such a short period. It must be done by appointment.
The tradition has been to appoint the runner-up in the previous election. It was deemed to be as close as possible to a voter decision without the expense and hiatus of a Byelection
The controversy in the last appointment was not so much the appointment as the public image of the Council making the appointment.
It had become clear a slate of candidates had been elected on the former Mayor's coat-tails. The had managed a majority of five elected. They couldn't be absolutely sure of Councillor Wilson.
Former Councillor Grace Marsh's resignation provided an opportunity to increase their number by one,If there was any doubt , it did not take long for the fact to become obvious.
As far as I am aware , Council was not consulted about al process for this appointment.
II was recommended by staff. It had been used in Richmond Hill in :December 2013.
The more we talked about it the more I became convinced it was a contrivance .The fact it was recommended by staff did not rule out the possibility.
Then the question was ,why would they risk controversy that
late in the day.?
It didn't take long to figure out. . Scheduled date of the special meeting was changed from August 12th to July 29th.
The appointment to fill the vacancy had to be made by August 23rd.
On August 12th , award of the contract for the joint operations centre is to be presented for approval.
Council was evenly divided on the issue with the Mayor. holding the swing vote.
On the eve of an election .,To undertake a project of almost twenty-seven million dollars, all of it debt, with clear support of better than majority of Council ,is iffy at best.
A bare majority within days of the campaign , is potential suicide.
An extra vote would make it that much more comfortable.
Call me cynical. I think the fix is in.
A recorded vote was called to approve this process . It was 7---1.
No sir, Honour Bright.....I did not vote for the. Schmoozess Process.
If I don't want to...they can't make me.
There were three legitimate possibilities. 1) Hold a bi-election, 2) Council appoints, in a manner that protects the dignity of any interested parties and council & 3) The seat is left open for the duration of the term. I would have preferred option 3, followed by option 2, and would never support option 1 at this late stage of the term.
The process that is being followed is a shameful farce, and is probably being pursued to avoid the sort of backlash that followed Cllr. Gallo's appointment in the last term.
Would it be possible to amend our governing bylaw to introduce a formulaic solution to this sort of situation, which would prescribe the approach in any given situation? It might not be a simple, single formula, but rather it may recognize what point in the term the seat becomes open and invoke an appropriate method.
For example,
- if in 1st year of the term, offer the seat to the failed candidates at the last election, in descending order of votes,
- if in year 2-3, hold a bi-election,
- if in first 6 months of year 4, council appoints,
- if in last 6 months of term, leave the seat empty.
Something like that would avoid all of the nonsense and awkward shenanigans that the current, ad-hoc process presents
Posted by KA-NON to Our Town and Its Business at 29 July 2014 07:59
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Provincial regulation governs the process. By elections are not allowed within ninety days of the municipal election.
Council is required to fill the vacant seat even for such a short period. It must be done by appointment.
The tradition has been to appoint the runner-up in the previous election. It was deemed to be as close as possible to a voter decision without the expense and hiatus of a Byelection
The controversy in the last appointment was not so much the appointment as the public image of the Council making the appointment.
It had become clear a slate of candidates had been elected on the former Mayor's coat-tails. The had managed a majority of five elected. They couldn't be absolutely sure of Councillor Wilson.
Former Councillor Grace Marsh's resignation provided an opportunity to increase their number by one,If there was any doubt , it did not take long for the fact to become obvious.
As far as I am aware , Council was not consulted about al process for this appointment.
II was recommended by staff. It had been used in Richmond Hill in :December 2013.
The more we talked about it the more I became convinced it was a contrivance .The fact it was recommended by staff did not rule out the possibility.
Then the question was ,why would they risk controversy that
late in the day.?
It didn't take long to figure out. . Scheduled date of the special meeting was changed from August 12th to July 29th.
The appointment to fill the vacancy had to be made by August 23rd.
On August 12th , award of the contract for the joint operations centre is to be presented for approval.
Council was evenly divided on the issue with the Mayor. holding the swing vote.
On the eve of an election .,To undertake a project of almost twenty-seven million dollars, all of it debt, with clear support of better than majority of Council ,is iffy at best.
A bare majority within days of the campaign , is potential suicide.
An extra vote would make it that much more comfortable.
Call me cynical. I think the fix is in.
A recorded vote was called to approve this process . It was 7---1.
No sir, Honour Bright.....I did not vote for the. Schmoozess Process.
If I don't want to...they can't make me.
Monday, 28 July 2014
It's No Small Thing
Tuesday's 3pm meeting will be streamed.Apparently it's a simple matter of clicking a button.
I am still conflicted about the meeting.
I've read the candidates profiles.. Once.
I plan to attend out of respect for the candidates but for the same reason the process is even more
unacceptable. Amendments to the process do not make it better.
Appointments are regularly made by Council within a term of office.
Councils are elected every four years.
The Municipal Clerk is the Elections Officer . He makes the rules. Council has no authority in the
matter.
Candidates cannot make rules whereby they are to be elected. Obviously.
The Municipal Act requires Council to APPOINT a person to fill the vacant seat.
I contend the Municipal Clerk/ Elections Officer has no role in recommending a process in the matter of appointment.
Ample precedents are established.
The recommended process is unworkable under the Town's procedure bylaw.
For a question to be considered by Council a Mover and seconder are required.
Debate is normal though not essential. Prior to discussion, a motion to put the question without debate is in order .
A majority can adopt a motion to proceed without debate.
In the process recommended by the Clek/ Elections Officer, who has no authority in the matter because it's an appointment, not an election; no provision is made for motions to be duly moved and seconded ; no provision to debate the motions; and no provision for motions to be decided by separate votes.
Invitation extended to apply to fill the vacant seat was not inappropriate.
Once invited , requirement to submit a profile cannot be faulted.
Opportunity to make public presentations becomes problematic ....because...for eight Councillors , after listening to eighteen presentations, to debate in public why the choice if this candidate would be more suitable another is both inappropriate and unacceptable.
The problem is not resolved by marking a ballot.
For Councilloars, to vote for this person versus all others without giving a reason is not acceptable.
Certainly transparency is not the result.
I will not vote in support of the recommendation amended by staff.
Out of respect for the candidates I will attend.
Out of the same respect, I will not cast a vote without justification.
I will not publicly discuss the merits of one candidate over another
Given the opportunity ,I will do what I can to persuade Council the normal process for appointment be observed.
Privacy and dignity of the individual takes precedence over. a pretext of openness and transparency.
I am still conflicted about the meeting.
I've read the candidates profiles.. Once.
I plan to attend out of respect for the candidates but for the same reason the process is even more
unacceptable. Amendments to the process do not make it better.
Appointments are regularly made by Council within a term of office.
Councils are elected every four years.
The Municipal Clerk is the Elections Officer . He makes the rules. Council has no authority in the
matter.
Candidates cannot make rules whereby they are to be elected. Obviously.
The Municipal Act requires Council to APPOINT a person to fill the vacant seat.
I contend the Municipal Clerk/ Elections Officer has no role in recommending a process in the matter of appointment.
Ample precedents are established.
The recommended process is unworkable under the Town's procedure bylaw.
For a question to be considered by Council a Mover and seconder are required.
Debate is normal though not essential. Prior to discussion, a motion to put the question without debate is in order .
A majority can adopt a motion to proceed without debate.
In the process recommended by the Clek/ Elections Officer, who has no authority in the matter because it's an appointment, not an election; no provision is made for motions to be duly moved and seconded ; no provision to debate the motions; and no provision for motions to be decided by separate votes.
Invitation extended to apply to fill the vacant seat was not inappropriate.
Once invited , requirement to submit a profile cannot be faulted.
Opportunity to make public presentations becomes problematic ....because...for eight Councillors , after listening to eighteen presentations, to debate in public why the choice if this candidate would be more suitable another is both inappropriate and unacceptable.
The problem is not resolved by marking a ballot.
For Councilloars, to vote for this person versus all others without giving a reason is not acceptable.
Certainly transparency is not the result.
I will not vote in support of the recommendation amended by staff.
Out of respect for the candidates I will attend.
Out of the same respect, I will not cast a vote without justification.
I will not publicly discuss the merits of one candidate over another
Given the opportunity ,I will do what I can to persuade Council the normal process for appointment be observed.
Privacy and dignity of the individual takes precedence over. a pretext of openness and transparency.
Saturday, 26 July 2014
It's Not Like Any Other Experience.
I have probably Observed and participated in more than thirty elections in Aurora.
I've won some and lost others. Winning is better.
I have observed literally hundreds of candidates. Aurora elections attract usually in excess of twenty candidates.
It means more losers than winners every time.
A winning candidate has no idea how it feels to lose.
After a campaign taking every resource available,financial and personal, psyching oneself to believe
in a winning outcome right up to the.votes are tallied.
Letdown after excitement peaks to fever pitch, cannot be imagined.
I've known losing candidates who deny the impact. I don't believe it.
One thing that cannot be denied ; by far the majority who try and fail, never
try again.
Many re-locate.
I've won some and lost others. Winning is better.
I have observed literally hundreds of candidates. Aurora elections attract usually in excess of twenty candidates.
It means more losers than winners every time.
A winning candidate has no idea how it feels to lose.
After a campaign taking every resource available,financial and personal, psyching oneself to believe
in a winning outcome right up to the.votes are tallied.
Letdown after excitement peaks to fever pitch, cannot be imagined.
I've known losing candidates who deny the impact. I don't believe it.
One thing that cannot be denied ; by far the majority who try and fail, never
try again.
Many re-locate.
.Changes proposed. Time posted almost 5p.m.
Tuesday's agenda has a staff report recommending changes to the process adopted by Council on July 15th.
For a start it's out of order. A Resolution approved by Council, confirmed by Bylaw ,cannot be re-considered within six months except by waiver of procedure requiring two-thirds vote of Council.
It's an attempt to correct an oversight which would not have occurred without the convoluted process set in motion without input from Council.
It's tied up in the knots we created for ourselves.
Who experiences the election process? Councillors that's who.
Who has most experience? Moi.
The amendments recognize timing for questions is open-ended.
Change suggests questions and answers be "concise"
Responsibility for determining what is or is not "concise" rests with the presiding member.
In this instance, Master of Ceremony, Chief Magistrate, Head Honcho, probably helpful architect and consultant for the entire nonsensical process, His Honour, The Mayor.
All Candidates Meetings for town elections ,traditionally organized by Aurora Library Board
provides for a Master of Ceremony , a Person of Status, known to be completely detached from the town's political affairs.
Purpose is to avoid all possibility or suggestion of bias or prejudice.
The process must be fastidious.
Between now and Tuesday afternoon Councillors have the additional task of comparing two questions for each of sixteen candidates.Two will apparently not attend.
I have an idea.
It's wicked. Promise you won't tell.
I contemplate asking candidates who they plan to support as the next Mayor.
Current choice is between two .
Whatever decision the presiding member makes, it can
under no circumstances be seen to be impartial or unbiased.
Yet the question is concise. The answer equally concise and within the rules set out.
Candidates can properly cite the right to a secret ballot.
If the decision is to disallow the question, the response to both must be the same.
But what is opposed is precisely what is being required of Councillors.
A second staff change recommended in the process requires ballots bearing the Councillor's
and candidates name to be distributed.
Votes will be cast.....ballots collected.....votes tallied and who voted for who will be publicly proclaimed.
The record will forever show which seventeen candidates were publicly rejected by which Councillors.
It is different to not being elected in a municipal election.
By attaching names of voters the selection becomes personal.
Having read the submissions, I have no stomach to do that to any of the eighteen who accepted an invitation to serve the community.
For a start it's out of order. A Resolution approved by Council, confirmed by Bylaw ,cannot be re-considered within six months except by waiver of procedure requiring two-thirds vote of Council.
It's an attempt to correct an oversight which would not have occurred without the convoluted process set in motion without input from Council.
It's tied up in the knots we created for ourselves.
Who experiences the election process? Councillors that's who.
Who has most experience? Moi.
The amendments recognize timing for questions is open-ended.
Change suggests questions and answers be "concise"
Responsibility for determining what is or is not "concise" rests with the presiding member.
In this instance, Master of Ceremony, Chief Magistrate, Head Honcho, probably helpful architect and consultant for the entire nonsensical process, His Honour, The Mayor.
All Candidates Meetings for town elections ,traditionally organized by Aurora Library Board
provides for a Master of Ceremony , a Person of Status, known to be completely detached from the town's political affairs.
Purpose is to avoid all possibility or suggestion of bias or prejudice.
The process must be fastidious.
Between now and Tuesday afternoon Councillors have the additional task of comparing two questions for each of sixteen candidates.Two will apparently not attend.
I have an idea.
It's wicked. Promise you won't tell.
I contemplate asking candidates who they plan to support as the next Mayor.
Current choice is between two .
Whatever decision the presiding member makes, it can
under no circumstances be seen to be impartial or unbiased.
Yet the question is concise. The answer equally concise and within the rules set out.
Candidates can properly cite the right to a secret ballot.
If the decision is to disallow the question, the response to both must be the same.
But what is opposed is precisely what is being required of Councillors.
A second staff change recommended in the process requires ballots bearing the Councillor's
and candidates name to be distributed.
Votes will be cast.....ballots collected.....votes tallied and who voted for who will be publicly proclaimed.
The record will forever show which seventeen candidates were publicly rejected by which Councillors.
It is different to not being elected in a municipal election.
By attaching names of voters the selection becomes personal.
Having read the submissions, I have no stomach to do that to any of the eighteen who accepted an invitation to serve the community.
The Process is Proceeding.
So....last night, Friday, after family and friends left I read of the submissions by residents taking up Council's invitation to fill Council's vacant seat.
It's 2.30 Saturday afternoon. I just finished reading the last six.
I will read them a second time before Tuesday.
Collectively, they make an impressive and highly positive statement about life in our town.
The sincerity of the candidates cannot be challenged.
I have been pre-occupied by the process since it began.
I did not expect to be so moved.
It makes the task harder. Increases my feelings of unfairness to the candidates.
In terms of opportunity, the town has so little to offer and the candidates have so much.
Eighteen people accepted an invitation . Seventeen will be publicly rejected.
I cannot in good conscience believe that's a good thing.
Richmond Hill did it in December 2013. They had the option of calling a By-election.
Apparently their decision was not well received in the community.
Toronto did it in July. The city is governed by the City of Toronto Act.What they do is not always
comparable to how we do.
Aurora has not done this before. I continue to contend an election by Council is not
required to make an appointment.
Secret ballot is at the core of democratic principle.
My concern is not about political expediency.
It's about protection of privacy of the individual.
I see no merit in the process. In the absence of logic I tend to look elsewhere.
I may be wrong but in this instance I would argue the philosophy
"Perception is the reality"
It's 2.30 Saturday afternoon. I just finished reading the last six.
I will read them a second time before Tuesday.
Collectively, they make an impressive and highly positive statement about life in our town.
The sincerity of the candidates cannot be challenged.
I have been pre-occupied by the process since it began.
I did not expect to be so moved.
It makes the task harder. Increases my feelings of unfairness to the candidates.
In terms of opportunity, the town has so little to offer and the candidates have so much.
Eighteen people accepted an invitation . Seventeen will be publicly rejected.
I cannot in good conscience believe that's a good thing.
Richmond Hill did it in December 2013. They had the option of calling a By-election.
Apparently their decision was not well received in the community.
Toronto did it in July. The city is governed by the City of Toronto Act.What they do is not always
comparable to how we do.
Aurora has not done this before. I continue to contend an election by Council is not
required to make an appointment.
Secret ballot is at the core of democratic principle.
My concern is not about political expediency.
It's about protection of privacy of the individual.
I see no merit in the process. In the absence of logic I tend to look elsewhere.
I may be wrong but in this instance I would argue the philosophy
"Perception is the reality"
Not the day I planned.
It's Saturday morning. I started a post yesterday but grand-daughter Lindsay , three great-grand-daughters, a friend of Lindsay's and her four children came to play in the pool.
They live in Innisfill. The Lake Simcoe beach is posted unfit for swimming.
Grand--daughter Robyn came and swept and mopped floors before they got here. In case the babies
came inside.
I know more about dog habits since Lindsay's sister Stephanie and her dog and cat and budgies came to live with me.
I never felt human infants and dogs are hygiene compatible .Everything I've read confirms my fears.
I started a post before I knew they were coming. I didn't finish it. I Am compelled to watch and keep count of all the bobbing heads when children are in the pool.
Abigail, when she was a bit younger,she is all of eight years now, used to stomp into my house,glare at me...and pugnaciously declare in a warning tone.....I AM NOT SWIMMING IN YOUR POOL.
She has since graduated to jumping from the steps in the shallow end,with a football sided and shaped floater at her back and strapped around her waist .
Yesterday, there was a boy ,Langdon, a year younger that Miss Abigail ,doing the same wearing a life jacket.
Within the hour, Abby was jumping off the deck into the deep end. minutes after that,she jumped off the diving board.
Scant minutes beyond that she was standing in line ,running the length of the diving board and with one hand in dive position the other holding her nose,when she leaped from the diving board into the centre, as opposed to closer to the side deck.
Their grandmother Theresa and Great-aunt Heather and five Great -uncles, learned to dive and swim and meet every kid in town, they hadn't already met at the community centre during the hockey season, at the town pool at George Street.
They finished off their childhood in the backyard pool.Before it's end, George Street pool was so crowded ,the kids were organized in half hour shifts.
The Aurora Lions Club raised the money to build that pool.
Lindsay who brought her children yesterday, bobbed around with her sister like corks with air pillows on their arms ,when she was little older than Emma who chatted and chased around the deck on her bum yesterday while her sisters turned blue but wouldn't come out of the pool to get warm.
The pool is not heated. I have an old-fashioned notion a pool is meant to cool a person off. Not to feel like swimming in hot soup.
Emma just turned a year. She had a companion in Dallas, a smiling, chortling eight month old girlchild of Lindsay's friend ,Krista.
Being the eldest, Emma was in charge and decided who would. play with which of the smaller child's toys.
Before they left , they brought in the Agenda for Tuesday's meeting.
They live in Innisfill. The Lake Simcoe beach is posted unfit for swimming.
Grand--daughter Robyn came and swept and mopped floors before they got here. In case the babies
came inside.
I know more about dog habits since Lindsay's sister Stephanie and her dog and cat and budgies came to live with me.
I never felt human infants and dogs are hygiene compatible .Everything I've read confirms my fears.
I started a post before I knew they were coming. I didn't finish it. I Am compelled to watch and keep count of all the bobbing heads when children are in the pool.
Abigail, when she was a bit younger,she is all of eight years now, used to stomp into my house,glare at me...and pugnaciously declare in a warning tone.....I AM NOT SWIMMING IN YOUR POOL.
She has since graduated to jumping from the steps in the shallow end,with a football sided and shaped floater at her back and strapped around her waist .
Yesterday, there was a boy ,Langdon, a year younger that Miss Abigail ,doing the same wearing a life jacket.
Within the hour, Abby was jumping off the deck into the deep end. minutes after that,she jumped off the diving board.
Scant minutes beyond that she was standing in line ,running the length of the diving board and with one hand in dive position the other holding her nose,when she leaped from the diving board into the centre, as opposed to closer to the side deck.
Their grandmother Theresa and Great-aunt Heather and five Great -uncles, learned to dive and swim and meet every kid in town, they hadn't already met at the community centre during the hockey season, at the town pool at George Street.
They finished off their childhood in the backyard pool.Before it's end, George Street pool was so crowded ,the kids were organized in half hour shifts.
The Aurora Lions Club raised the money to build that pool.
Lindsay who brought her children yesterday, bobbed around with her sister like corks with air pillows on their arms ,when she was little older than Emma who chatted and chased around the deck on her bum yesterday while her sisters turned blue but wouldn't come out of the pool to get warm.
The pool is not heated. I have an old-fashioned notion a pool is meant to cool a person off. Not to feel like swimming in hot soup.
Emma just turned a year. She had a companion in Dallas, a smiling, chortling eight month old girlchild of Lindsay's friend ,Krista.
Being the eldest, Emma was in charge and decided who would. play with which of the smaller child's toys.
Before they left , they brought in the Agenda for Tuesday's meeting.
Thursday, 24 July 2014
Sadly...This is not a surprise
Late last year, one of our many consultant studies dwelt upon town service levels.
The consultant concluded costs were higher than all other municipalities save two because we provide a higher level of service.
I think it cost between $60 and $70 thousand for the study.
Almost as an afterthought , the consultant suggested cost could be reduced by eliminating one director position.
And so it came to pass. In February of an election year, the Director of Legislative Services position was eliminated.
The director's responsibilities were folded under the umbrella of the Town Solicitor's department.
A new clerk was appointed Lickety-split.
A severance package to the Director was appropriate under the circumstances.
It would not likely be hundreds of thousands. The outgoing Director was third since 2008. The current clerk is fourth in the job ..third appointment since 2008.
The Director was approaching retirement after thirty-five ,maybe forty years in the same department.
He was competent.
His experience was valuable to the town.
All concerns expressed were dismissed.
Assurance was provided expertise required was on hand.
With the best will and understanding, I cannot vouchsafe for that fact
The consultant concluded costs were higher than all other municipalities save two because we provide a higher level of service.
I think it cost between $60 and $70 thousand for the study.
Almost as an afterthought , the consultant suggested cost could be reduced by eliminating one director position.
And so it came to pass. In February of an election year, the Director of Legislative Services position was eliminated.
The director's responsibilities were folded under the umbrella of the Town Solicitor's department.
A new clerk was appointed Lickety-split.
A severance package to the Director was appropriate under the circumstances.
It would not likely be hundreds of thousands. The outgoing Director was third since 2008. The current clerk is fourth in the job ..third appointment since 2008.
The Director was approaching retirement after thirty-five ,maybe forty years in the same department.
He was competent.
His experience was valuable to the town.
All concerns expressed were dismissed.
Assurance was provided expertise required was on hand.
With the best will and understanding, I cannot vouchsafe for that fact
It's A Mess
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "TWO TEAMS DO NOT MAKE A WHOLE":
I am not thinking in terms of teams but of numbers and the silliness of the exercise. If one more councillor were unable to attend for whatever reason, there would be no quorum ? No ? What then ? Would the skies fall ?
Posted by Anonymous to Our Town and Its Business at 24 July 2014 14:39
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Council normally goes into recess in July and August. Input from the community during those months is a lost cause.
Children are out of school. Families plan vacations.
There was no reason to assume every member of Council would be at home.
Council was not polled for availability.
There could be no indication on July 14th how many candidates might apply to fil the vacancy and how much time might be required.
Staff recommended each candidate be given ten minutes to speak. Council reduced it to three minutes.
But we still have provision for. each Councillor to ask two questions. No time limit either for questions or answers. Ten minutes could easily be exceeded by another twenty minutes per Candidate.
A Council Meeting. Meeting is scheduled to follow . A Bylaw to appoint will likely be prepared and on the agenda for passage.
It seems clear plans were cut and dried for someone's convenience.
I am not aware of any consultation with Councillors at large.
Eighteen people have been asked to accommodate the meeting schedule.
If it doesn't take place,all will have been inconvenienced.
If it does take place without the full Council a fair process will be denied.
Regulation requires the seat to be filled by appointment. The appointment process does not require a public election.
Nor is it required to be done before August 23rd.
The skies will not fall if the appointment is not made on July 29th
But many will have been badly served in the process.
I am not thinking in terms of teams but of numbers and the silliness of the exercise. If one more councillor were unable to attend for whatever reason, there would be no quorum ? No ? What then ? Would the skies fall ?
Posted by Anonymous to Our Town and Its Business at 24 July 2014 14:39
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Council normally goes into recess in July and August. Input from the community during those months is a lost cause.
Children are out of school. Families plan vacations.
There was no reason to assume every member of Council would be at home.
Council was not polled for availability.
There could be no indication on July 14th how many candidates might apply to fil the vacancy and how much time might be required.
Staff recommended each candidate be given ten minutes to speak. Council reduced it to three minutes.
But we still have provision for. each Councillor to ask two questions. No time limit either for questions or answers. Ten minutes could easily be exceeded by another twenty minutes per Candidate.
A Council Meeting. Meeting is scheduled to follow . A Bylaw to appoint will likely be prepared and on the agenda for passage.
It seems clear plans were cut and dried for someone's convenience.
I am not aware of any consultation with Councillors at large.
Eighteen people have been asked to accommodate the meeting schedule.
If it doesn't take place,all will have been inconvenienced.
If it does take place without the full Council a fair process will be denied.
Regulation requires the seat to be filled by appointment. The appointment process does not require a public election.
Nor is it required to be done before August 23rd.
The skies will not fall if the appointment is not made on July 29th
But many will have been badly served in the process.
TWO TEAMS DO NOT MAKE A WHOLE
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "STUFF. HaPPENS":
Well, it sounds like the no-show excuses are already in from the three non-team players.
Posted by Anonymous to Our Town and Its Business at 24 July 2014 11:34
Well, it sounds like the no-show excuses are already in from the three non-team players.
Posted by Anonymous to Our Town and Its Business at 24 July 2014 11:34
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And that sounds like the predictable response from one or all of the team players.
It sums up the problem with the current Council.
It's not a lack if commitment.
Nor an unwillingness to put sin the time needed for town business.
It' s not a lack of conscience or even terrible enmity between Councillors.
There is the occasional jab or like last week the gang-up on Councillor Gaertner who dared to put a motion on the table for discussion.
There is no tension in Council Chamber on meeting nights.
No...the problem is not mutual hostility .......or serious disrespect.
The problem is not understanding what it takes to succeed.
A divided Council. never knows the satisfaction of overcoming all prejudices and achieving worthwhile purpose in the community.
I repeat. It's not easy . It calls for learned skills and a particular level of integrity.
If members do not comprehend and accept the complexity...it's impossible.
Each Councillor has a responsibility to put forward a particular perspective. And to fight for it. to prevail.
Out of that, because the community's interest come first, solutions must be found to everyone's near satisfaction.
It may not always happen but the effort must be made.And when it does ,satisfaction is immense.
Forming a voting block or "team" to ensure one way or another prevails is blundering ,inefficient and frustrates everyone.
It's the modern simplicity method.
Everybody knows how things should be done without ever having done it.
Nobody has to learn.
Google has all the answers .
Consultants do all the thinking
Excluding Council members not perceived as part of "the team" does not fool all of the people any of the time.
Voters most certainly expect that once elected , a council will work together.
A Council is not a team or Heaven forbid, two teams.
A team scores points ...wins or loses.... the Club increases status or loses place. In the end it's only a game.
A Council is not in competition. The objective must be to find ways to do things better ,at least cost,
to maintain and if need be improve services and to. make progress.
it doesn't happen with "teams " pulling against each other.
A Council divided is inefficient .
Bureaucracy reigns supreme.
STUFF. HAPPENS
Staff received an e-mail this morning that Councillor Gallo will not be able to attend the meeting on July 29th. The possibility was previously indicated.
Councillor Gaertner has indicated difficulty with timing of the meeting.
Night before last I had a fall. My tailbone took a hit and moving about is proving difficult and more than a little painful.
I am hoping a week will make a difference and I can attend.the meeting . But sitting from three in the afternoon until eleven o'clock or possibly later, presents a challenge.
Despite my total opposition to the process , the person who should occupy the seat is entitled to my vote. I will do my best.
I have notified the town of my situation.
If I can't make it the meeting could proceed with a quorum.
Regulations provide until August 23rd to make the appointment. No indication of dreaded and heinous punishment if it's not made by that date. But there is no imperative to make it on July 29th.
On September 12th, everybody becomes a candidate,including the group electing to elect a single candidate to occupy a single seat for a matter of hours of town business.
Eighteen people have been certified as candidates for the vacancy.
Two are electing not to participate in the hokey process. My word not theirs.
Fourteen will attend. Anticipating a fair and impartial hearing.
Some may take a day off work. Perhaps forfeit a day's pay. The chosen one will be more than compensated.
If three Councillors are absent, five will make the decision.
What if the choice is the one I speculated it would be.?
What are people supposed to make of that?
Councillor Gaertner has indicated difficulty with timing of the meeting.
Night before last I had a fall. My tailbone took a hit and moving about is proving difficult and more than a little painful.
I am hoping a week will make a difference and I can attend.the meeting . But sitting from three in the afternoon until eleven o'clock or possibly later, presents a challenge.
Despite my total opposition to the process , the person who should occupy the seat is entitled to my vote. I will do my best.
I have notified the town of my situation.
If I can't make it the meeting could proceed with a quorum.
Regulations provide until August 23rd to make the appointment. No indication of dreaded and heinous punishment if it's not made by that date. But there is no imperative to make it on July 29th.
On September 12th, everybody becomes a candidate,including the group electing to elect a single candidate to occupy a single seat for a matter of hours of town business.
Eighteen people have been certified as candidates for the vacancy.
Two are electing not to participate in the hokey process. My word not theirs.
Fourteen will attend. Anticipating a fair and impartial hearing.
Some may take a day off work. Perhaps forfeit a day's pay. The chosen one will be more than compensated.
If three Councillors are absent, five will make the decision.
What if the choice is the one I speculated it would be.?
What are people supposed to make of that?
Wednesday, 23 July 2014
What You Just Said
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Rehash of a Rehash":
"A bylaw requires dog-owners to stoop and scoop on penalty of a fine."
There are a lot of scofflaws out there. After the spring melt, it's disgusting the amount of "pathogens" left behind from winter dog walks.
Posted by Anonymous to Our Town and Its Business at 23 July 2014 14:09
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Think about what you just said.
"After the Spring smelt, it's disgusting the amount of "pathogens" left behind from winter dog walks."
You said.....left behind .
After melted snow left the scene, pathogens were left behind. They were not being processed through a treatment facility.
Probably at least ninety-five per cent of winter snow falls where there are boulevards ; built for snow storage.
I live in the town. I've never seen masses of dog poop in the Spring.
I've been a Councillor for the last eleven years, I've never seen
a report on that particular health hazard.
I have observed masses of litter in shopping centre parking lots after snow mountains melt.
Masses of pathogens left from winter dog walks? No. I would have noticed that.
New subdivisions have storm water ponds ,constructed at cost of hundreds of thousands of dollars,
adding to the price of their homes.
Their purpose is to treat rain flowing off roofs ,down driveways annd off roads into the ponds.
The expert theory is , pathogens sink as sediment to the bottom of the pond and allow outflow
of cleansed water to make it's way to the creeks,rivers and finally Lake Simcoe .
It' s supposed to be an improvement over farmers' fields.
It's still unproven .
Not long ago we had an expert from South Lake Simcoe Conservation Authority make a presentation to Council to warn us lake waters are still deteriorating.
"A bylaw requires dog-owners to stoop and scoop on penalty of a fine."
There are a lot of scofflaws out there. After the spring melt, it's disgusting the amount of "pathogens" left behind from winter dog walks.
Posted by Anonymous to Our Town and Its Business at 23 July 2014 14:09
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Think about what you just said.
"After the Spring smelt, it's disgusting the amount of "pathogens" left behind from winter dog walks."
You said.....left behind .
After melted snow left the scene, pathogens were left behind. They were not being processed through a treatment facility.
Probably at least ninety-five per cent of winter snow falls where there are boulevards ; built for snow storage.
I live in the town. I've never seen masses of dog poop in the Spring.
I've been a Councillor for the last eleven years, I've never seen
a report on that particular health hazard.
I have observed masses of litter in shopping centre parking lots after snow mountains melt.
Masses of pathogens left from winter dog walks? No. I would have noticed that.
New subdivisions have storm water ponds ,constructed at cost of hundreds of thousands of dollars,
adding to the price of their homes.
Their purpose is to treat rain flowing off roofs ,down driveways annd off roads into the ponds.
The expert theory is , pathogens sink as sediment to the bottom of the pond and allow outflow
of cleansed water to make it's way to the creeks,rivers and finally Lake Simcoe .
It' s supposed to be an improvement over farmers' fields.
It's still unproven .
Not long ago we had an expert from South Lake Simcoe Conservation Authority make a presentation to Council to warn us lake waters are still deteriorating.
Rehash of a Rehash
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "A Little Hiustory":
"It's good for everyone to be aware toxic chemicals are still buried in creek beds. They never lose
toxicity. It's wise to ensure they should never be disturbed."
Also remember that toxic chemicals are found in snow removed from roads and parking lots. They contain salts and other chemicals. When the snow melts, it should be contained and not allowed to enter the ground water.
Posted by Anonymous to Our Town and Its Business at 23 July 2014 10:27
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The above is the second comment to point out the error of my ways in opposition to the million dollar treatment facility for melted snow.
$169,000 was spent on the design during the last term. Total price at original conception was $750,000.
It was a capital construction item pending.
Snow was being dumped in the gravel parking lot at the leash-free dog park on Industrial Parkway north . Before that it was at the side of the railway where the community garden is now located. It had to be shifted when we sold the Jack Woods farmhouse property.
We need a snow dump for an average of three months a year.
The parking lot is permeable. When temperatures rise, the dumped snow melts into the grounds like everywhere else.
The proposal was to pave the parking lot , construct gutters and channel snow melt into a treatment facility to remove salt and release treated water into the arboretum.
There was something not quite right about it. I went to sleep thinking about it. I wakened in the night with a start thinking;
Wait al minute...salt is soluble in water .It can't be removed .
Well ....the next explanation was "pathogens" needed to be removed from the snow melt. Salt was no longer held to be the problem.
O.K. So I'm not a chemist. What are pathogens ?
Animal excrement.
Animal excrement!!!! When was the last time a dog was seen squatting on a snow bank on Yonge
Street. No recollection comes to mind.
The next explanation was windshield washer from cars. It gets on the road and gets plowed aside into the snow banks and has two be removed by treatment.
The final offering was the snow dump is in the well-head protection area. The aquifer must be protected.
Well,you know, by this time I am done listening to explanations. The treatment facility was deferred. But not removed from budget forecaste.
Back it came, included in the planned Joint Operation Centre. Now, it's a million dollars less the
$169,000 already spent on the treatment facility design. No longer identified as a treatment facility. Now it's called snow storage facility.
Sly smiles around the table indicate appreciation of sleight of hand in getting back with the program.
In my judgement, the project is a gigantic boondoggle. Part of an. even more spectacular piece of feather-bedding.
A. snow dump accommodates a fraction of the snow that falls in the municipality.
A bylaw requires dog-owners to stoop and scoop on penalty of a fine.
Where there is salt or windshield washer ,there can be no snow or ice.
It has been established salt is a soluble and except in Israelthere is no process to remove it from a solution.
In the second place where there is salt or windshield washer there is neither ice nor snow.
No snow needing to be stored.
Snow is not collected from probably ninety-eight per cent of town highways and byways. It's left to melt where it sits. Apparently without concern. for toxic chemicals within.
Snow dumps have had to be moved regularly over the years.
If the permeable parking lot on Industry Street North is not the right place. Shift it.
Forget the cockamamie million dollar scheme to remove chemicals that can't be where they say they are.
If you have snow or ice,, you can't have salt and windshield washer fluid.
If you have salt and windshield washer fluid ,you can't have snow or ice.
You don't have two be a chemist or an environmentL engineer to figure that one out.
You do have to sbe fifty different kinds of a fool to allow yourself to believe it.
"It's good for everyone to be aware toxic chemicals are still buried in creek beds. They never lose
toxicity. It's wise to ensure they should never be disturbed."
Also remember that toxic chemicals are found in snow removed from roads and parking lots. They contain salts and other chemicals. When the snow melts, it should be contained and not allowed to enter the ground water.
Posted by Anonymous to Our Town and Its Business at 23 July 2014 10:27
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The above is the second comment to point out the error of my ways in opposition to the million dollar treatment facility for melted snow.
$169,000 was spent on the design during the last term. Total price at original conception was $750,000.
It was a capital construction item pending.
Snow was being dumped in the gravel parking lot at the leash-free dog park on Industrial Parkway north . Before that it was at the side of the railway where the community garden is now located. It had to be shifted when we sold the Jack Woods farmhouse property.
We need a snow dump for an average of three months a year.
The parking lot is permeable. When temperatures rise, the dumped snow melts into the grounds like everywhere else.
The proposal was to pave the parking lot , construct gutters and channel snow melt into a treatment facility to remove salt and release treated water into the arboretum.
There was something not quite right about it. I went to sleep thinking about it. I wakened in the night with a start thinking;
Wait al minute...salt is soluble in water .It can't be removed .
Well ....the next explanation was "pathogens" needed to be removed from the snow melt. Salt was no longer held to be the problem.
O.K. So I'm not a chemist. What are pathogens ?
Animal excrement.
Animal excrement!!!! When was the last time a dog was seen squatting on a snow bank on Yonge
Street. No recollection comes to mind.
The next explanation was windshield washer from cars. It gets on the road and gets plowed aside into the snow banks and has two be removed by treatment.
The final offering was the snow dump is in the well-head protection area. The aquifer must be protected.
Well,you know, by this time I am done listening to explanations. The treatment facility was deferred. But not removed from budget forecaste.
Back it came, included in the planned Joint Operation Centre. Now, it's a million dollars less the
$169,000 already spent on the treatment facility design. No longer identified as a treatment facility. Now it's called snow storage facility.
Sly smiles around the table indicate appreciation of sleight of hand in getting back with the program.
In my judgement, the project is a gigantic boondoggle. Part of an. even more spectacular piece of feather-bedding.
A. snow dump accommodates a fraction of the snow that falls in the municipality.
A bylaw requires dog-owners to stoop and scoop on penalty of a fine.
Where there is salt or windshield washer ,there can be no snow or ice.
It has been established salt is a soluble and except in Israelthere is no process to remove it from a solution.
In the second place where there is salt or windshield washer there is neither ice nor snow.
No snow needing to be stored.
Snow is not collected from probably ninety-eight per cent of town highways and byways. It's left to melt where it sits. Apparently without concern. for toxic chemicals within.
Snow dumps have had to be moved regularly over the years.
If the permeable parking lot on Industry Street North is not the right place. Shift it.
Forget the cockamamie million dollar scheme to remove chemicals that can't be where they say they are.
If you have snow or ice,, you can't have salt and windshield washer fluid.
If you have salt and windshield washer fluid ,you can't have snow or ice.
You don't have two be a chemist or an environmentL engineer to figure that one out.
You do have to sbe fifty different kinds of a fool to allow yourself to believe it.
Tuesday, 22 July 2014
A Little History
Before WW2 Aurora was a bustling progressive urban centre serving surrounding farmlands .
Farming families were as much a part of the community as town dwellers.Mny were family-connected.
Flour mills,a rope works, Fleury Plough Works a brickworks were all part of local industry.
Numerous tanneries lined the creeks north and south. Water was power.
The tanning process required toxic chemicals.
They are still in creek beds buried under many layers of harmless sediment.
So long as they are not disturbed, the chemicals are as harmless as the sediment that has washed down to cover them over the last seventy-five years or more.
Collis Leather was still tanning when I came to Aurora and became a Councillor?
A calf skin was the gift of choice, if needed to present to a special guest . It was a symbol of Aurora industry.
It's good for everyone to be aware toxic chemicals are still buried in creek beds. They never lose
toxicity. It's wise to ensure they are never disturbed.
Farming families were as much a part of the community as town dwellers.Mny were family-connected.
Flour mills,a rope works, Fleury Plough Works a brickworks were all part of local industry.
Numerous tanneries lined the creeks north and south. Water was power.
The tanning process required toxic chemicals.
They are still in creek beds buried under many layers of harmless sediment.
So long as they are not disturbed, the chemicals are as harmless as the sediment that has washed down to cover them over the last seventy-five years or more.
Collis Leather was still tanning when I came to Aurora and became a Councillor?
A calf skin was the gift of choice, if needed to present to a special guest . It was a symbol of Aurora industry.
It's good for everyone to be aware toxic chemicals are still buried in creek beds. They never lose
toxicity. It's wise to ensure they are never disturbed.
It was the worst of times
I published comments critical of Grace Marsh this morning. I didn't want to.
I don't mind being accused of being a hypocrite. I don't like to feel like one.
I had at Marilee Harris last weeks when I read of her bid for the vacant Council seat.
I let people say nasty things about Councillors and the Mayor .I doubt they or their supporters appreciate it.
The point is no-one is forced to put their name forward for public office. Criticism is part of the territory. Social media just makes it more convenient and more.....telling.
Grace is criticized for quitting. That she did is undeniable.
But there is a factor that may not be so well known.
Grace worked for a municipal tax consultant operating in Canada and America.
Letters had gone from members of that Council to employers of other Councillors.
The intent being to cause damage to a person's employment.
Even as I tell it, the nightmare returns.
I don't believe it. should be hard for any fair-minded person to understand the level of tension the. situation provoked.
A candidate for public office certainly puts themselves out there and by so doing invites
disagreement,opposition and yes, criticism.
Deliberate intent to hurt someone , beyond political, is not part of the deal.
A sacrifice no Canadian is expected to endure for the privilege of performing a public service.
It happened to Grace and it happened to others.
Five years later, I am still intent on making sure nothing like it ever happens again.
The SLAPP litigation was just a sample of the malice permeating the town's public affairs.
The poisonous environment did not happen overnight. It grew unabated for fifteen years.
It was the reason I returned to politics. I knew the problem.
My children could not become targets.
My job was not at risk.
After the 2006 election I knew things were going to be much worse.
And it was. Very much worse.
Grace's resignation was just a small piece of the foul and pestilential swamp.
I do not exaggerate . One had to be there to appreciate the full horror.
It should not be forgotten .
I never saw anything like it before. It should never happen again.
With social media ,it might be harder to get a toehold
I don't mind being accused of being a hypocrite. I don't like to feel like one.
I had at Marilee Harris last weeks when I read of her bid for the vacant Council seat.
I let people say nasty things about Councillors and the Mayor .I doubt they or their supporters appreciate it.
The point is no-one is forced to put their name forward for public office. Criticism is part of the territory. Social media just makes it more convenient and more.....telling.
Grace is criticized for quitting. That she did is undeniable.
But there is a factor that may not be so well known.
Grace worked for a municipal tax consultant operating in Canada and America.
Letters had gone from members of that Council to employers of other Councillors.
The intent being to cause damage to a person's employment.
Even as I tell it, the nightmare returns.
I don't believe it. should be hard for any fair-minded person to understand the level of tension the. situation provoked.
A candidate for public office certainly puts themselves out there and by so doing invites
disagreement,opposition and yes, criticism.
Deliberate intent to hurt someone , beyond political, is not part of the deal.
A sacrifice no Canadian is expected to endure for the privilege of performing a public service.
It happened to Grace and it happened to others.
Five years later, I am still intent on making sure nothing like it ever happens again.
The SLAPP litigation was just a sample of the malice permeating the town's public affairs.
The poisonous environment did not happen overnight. It grew unabated for fifteen years.
It was the reason I returned to politics. I knew the problem.
My children could not become targets.
My job was not at risk.
After the 2006 election I knew things were going to be much worse.
And it was. Very much worse.
Grace's resignation was just a small piece of the foul and pestilential swamp.
I do not exaggerate . One had to be there to appreciate the full horror.
It should not be forgotten .
I never saw anything like it before. It should never happen again.
With social media ,it might be harder to get a toehold
A Rationale
Grace Marsh is eminently well suited to fill the vacant seat on Council we are required to fill .
Apparently sixteen candidates are certified.
One seat to fill.
One significant decision to make before the end of the term.
Like all others,the decision we make is on behalf of the electorate.
It's not hard. The question I ask? If this were a general election what would be the likely outcome.
Based on known facts, Grace and Bob would both be chosen.
A person is elected based on a sufficient number of votes. More votes don't make a person more elected.
Major difference between Bob and Grace? Grace is currently Vice-Chair of the Committee of Adjustment. It is a statutory committee. Quasi-judicial. Functions at arm's length from Council.
Has independent authority .
If Grace is appointed to the vacant council seat, a vacancy is created on the Committee of Adjustment which must be filled.
The job requires experience. Grace's experience would be missed.
The committee meets when applications are to be decided. .They do not break for summer recess or municipal elections. I believe they serve two terms or until they are replaced.
Committee decisions are to grant or not to grant . A tie vote does neither.The committee,absent a member, could be non-functional.
That's. an injustice to someone who has paid a fee of $2,200. and waited weeks for a hearing.
If it's unavoidable ,it can't be helped.
It is not unavoidable.
A person who wishes to respond to Chris Watts position on the vacant seat,
must do it on his terms, on his blog.
This is not a broker blog.
Apparently sixteen candidates are certified.
One seat to fill.
One significant decision to make before the end of the term.
Like all others,the decision we make is on behalf of the electorate.
It's not hard. The question I ask? If this were a general election what would be the likely outcome.
Based on known facts, Grace and Bob would both be chosen.
A person is elected based on a sufficient number of votes. More votes don't make a person more elected.
Major difference between Bob and Grace? Grace is currently Vice-Chair of the Committee of Adjustment. It is a statutory committee. Quasi-judicial. Functions at arm's length from Council.
Has independent authority .
If Grace is appointed to the vacant council seat, a vacancy is created on the Committee of Adjustment which must be filled.
The job requires experience. Grace's experience would be missed.
The committee meets when applications are to be decided. .They do not break for summer recess or municipal elections. I believe they serve two terms or until they are replaced.
Committee decisions are to grant or not to grant . A tie vote does neither.The committee,absent a member, could be non-functional.
That's. an injustice to someone who has paid a fee of $2,200. and waited weeks for a hearing.
If it's unavoidable ,it can't be helped.
It is not unavoidable.
A person who wishes to respond to Chris Watts position on the vacant seat,
must do it on his terms, on his blog.
This is not a broker blog.
Monday, 21 July 2014
Family News
My grandson Keenan is on his way to England with Kari Chung ,his special girl.
They made a two day stop in Iceland .
Keenan asked Kari to marry him this morning .She said yes and. Keenan gave her the ring ha brought for the purpose.
They are engaged .
Happy pictures on Facebook.
It means a wedding. The first of Heather and Andy's children to leave home.
A new satellite branch of the family to be established.
They love little ones. There will be more babies.
The family is ecstatic.
I am too.
I so love that my grandson is romantic.
They made a two day stop in Iceland .
Keenan asked Kari to marry him this morning .She said yes and. Keenan gave her the ring ha brought for the purpose.
They are engaged .
Happy pictures on Facebook.
It means a wedding. The first of Heather and Andy's children to leave home.
A new satellite branch of the family to be established.
They love little ones. There will be more babies.
The family is ecstatic.
I am too.
I so love that my grandson is romantic.
Apologies for previous shortcomings.
On Friday I spent seven hours writing a pos with the iPad. I've been using it for months. A year maybe.
The small separate keyboard I bought has given up the ghost. I'm getting used to the keyboard on the screen of the iPad.
After seven hours ,split in two shifts, I was proof reading the post and had arrived at the end when POOF!!! everything but the title disappeared.
My confidence was shattered. My ego shrank to the size of a pin head.
The iPad does things like correct spelling with no help from myself. It replaces words with others completely inappropriate or a bunch of letters without meaning.
I think there may be a devil inside or perhaps a spell cast, to terrorize me into submission.
I acknowledge fear of my iPad.
I clicked on "publish " before the last post could escape.
I am ashamed of the bad construction.
I proof read it again. I hope it's adequate .
I'm afraid to roll it back for a final check.
I fear the devil may reach out and WHACK !!! ...make it disappear again.
I cannot allow myself to be defeated by a small slim piece of twenty finger technology.
The small separate keyboard I bought has given up the ghost. I'm getting used to the keyboard on the screen of the iPad.
After seven hours ,split in two shifts, I was proof reading the post and had arrived at the end when POOF!!! everything but the title disappeared.
My confidence was shattered. My ego shrank to the size of a pin head.
The iPad does things like correct spelling with no help from myself. It replaces words with others completely inappropriate or a bunch of letters without meaning.
I think there may be a devil inside or perhaps a spell cast, to terrorize me into submission.
I acknowledge fear of my iPad.
I clicked on "publish " before the last post could escape.
I am ashamed of the bad construction.
I proof read it again. I hope it's adequate .
I'm afraid to roll it back for a final check.
I fear the devil may reach out and WHACK !!! ...make it disappear again.
I cannot allow myself to be defeated by a small slim piece of twenty finger technology.
Baa Baa Black Sheep
Early, in the term before last,I received a request from a resident of Highland Green Conmdominiums. it was a small thing. The lady was in the habit of shopping at the Aurora Shopping Centre and trundling the goods home in a bundle buggy.
Could there be a cut in the curb on the south side of Gilf Links Drive that would allow the laden buggy to be rolled off instead of lifted or bumped down onto the road surface.
I called the Director of Public Works to see what could be done.
I swear I heard a sigh at the other end of the line. The request had been made before and he could not oblige. The road curved dangerously at that point . The town could not do something that would encourage a pedestrian to believe it was safe to cross there.
Condo management was contacted. They did not support the request. Pedestrians were encouraged to use the front entrance of the building. It led directly to the Yonge Street sidewalk and a
signalized intersection.
I could not fault the logic. I explained it to the resident. The curb cut was no mu den to ask but in the circumstances it could not be done.
Her frustration I understood completely.
A second term passed I heard nothing. The Director of Public Works was first to abandon ship
In that term.
That's another story.
A third term arrived . A signalized crossing at a cost of $85,000 was recommended by The Director of Environment and Infrastructure. at the same curve in the road that was too dangerous for a cut in the curb.
Councillor Humfryes had received the same request I received seven years before.
Councillor Ballard lived on Golf links Drive .he confirmed the location was absolutely the worst place for a crossing, signalized or not.
It didn't happen.
A couple of years passed. Councillor Gallo requested a signalized crosswalk on John West Parkway.
Seniors living on the west side of the road were taking their lives in their hands to cross the road to make their way to shop on Bayview or Civic Garden Park as it was then called .
It was provided at a cost of $85,000 or thereabouts and paid for with development charge funds.
It brought back the question of the lady who crosses Golf Links drive to shop with a bundle buggy.
The curve is no less dangerous. Now a short stretch of sidewalk is to be built at a cost of $90,000.
It will be built across two double driveways ending at the western edge of the second. A berm and a line of mature trees that screen the donut shop drive-thru with microphone noise until the small hours of the morning is to be removed.
Residents if the five storey retirement building opposite will have a new but not improved view from their windows.
I went to Tim Horton's to check things out. I parked and had a coffee. Saw a lady a with a shopping bag walk down the existing sidewalk ,look from side to side and cross at the condo driveway.
All that was asked for was a cut in the curb.
A row of mature trees will be removed, the berm levelled , removing a screen undoubtedly required by the town in a site plan approval. The town ais spending $90,000 on. a short weird stretch of sidewalk literally going nowhere while crossing two double driveways.
It may well be more dangerous to compete with Tim Horton's drive-thru traffic than crossing Golf Links Drive.
I keep hearing how things have changed in fifty years since I first became involved in the Town's affairs.
Yes sir?...Yes sir.....Three bags full sir!
Could there be a cut in the curb on the south side of Gilf Links Drive that would allow the laden buggy to be rolled off instead of lifted or bumped down onto the road surface.
I called the Director of Public Works to see what could be done.
I swear I heard a sigh at the other end of the line. The request had been made before and he could not oblige. The road curved dangerously at that point . The town could not do something that would encourage a pedestrian to believe it was safe to cross there.
Condo management was contacted. They did not support the request. Pedestrians were encouraged to use the front entrance of the building. It led directly to the Yonge Street sidewalk and a
signalized intersection.
I could not fault the logic. I explained it to the resident. The curb cut was no mu den to ask but in the circumstances it could not be done.
Her frustration I understood completely.
A second term passed I heard nothing. The Director of Public Works was first to abandon ship
In that term.
That's another story.
A third term arrived . A signalized crossing at a cost of $85,000 was recommended by The Director of Environment and Infrastructure. at the same curve in the road that was too dangerous for a cut in the curb.
Councillor Humfryes had received the same request I received seven years before.
Councillor Ballard lived on Golf links Drive .he confirmed the location was absolutely the worst place for a crossing, signalized or not.
It didn't happen.
A couple of years passed. Councillor Gallo requested a signalized crosswalk on John West Parkway.
Seniors living on the west side of the road were taking their lives in their hands to cross the road to make their way to shop on Bayview or Civic Garden Park as it was then called .
It was provided at a cost of $85,000 or thereabouts and paid for with development charge funds.
It brought back the question of the lady who crosses Golf Links drive to shop with a bundle buggy.
The curve is no less dangerous. Now a short stretch of sidewalk is to be built at a cost of $90,000.
It will be built across two double driveways ending at the western edge of the second. A berm and a line of mature trees that screen the donut shop drive-thru with microphone noise until the small hours of the morning is to be removed.
Residents if the five storey retirement building opposite will have a new but not improved view from their windows.
I went to Tim Horton's to check things out. I parked and had a coffee. Saw a lady a with a shopping bag walk down the existing sidewalk ,look from side to side and cross at the condo driveway.
All that was asked for was a cut in the curb.
A row of mature trees will be removed, the berm levelled , removing a screen undoubtedly required by the town in a site plan approval. The town ais spending $90,000 on. a short weird stretch of sidewalk literally going nowhere while crossing two double driveways.
It may well be more dangerous to compete with Tim Horton's drive-thru traffic than crossing Golf Links Drive.
I keep hearing how things have changed in fifty years since I first became involved in the Town's affairs.
Yes sir?...Yes sir.....Three bags full sir!
The Choice is Not Between Equals
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Here's A Thought":
"A person who has never held public office. Has never competed in an election. May not even be known by many, may cast the deciding vote that plunges the municipality into mega millions of dollars of debt."
Is it better that some with experience on council cast the vote to plunges the municipality into mega millions of dollars of debt.
Posted by Anonymous to Our Town and Its Business at 21 July 2014 08:36
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This is an interesting question. What would be better?
It would be better if the vacant seat need not be occupied at this late date.
Someone asked about cost to the municipality? A Councillor salary for four months.
There is not enough time to have an experience Council, Certainly not enough to become familiar with the operation of a public institution. No time at all to determine how it differs from private business function .
Certainly not nearly enough time to win confidence of taxpayers.
Never enough time to know if a person could ever win sufficient votes to have authority for decisionsq on behalf of others.
Until the start of the next term,every Councillor has been given that authority by the voters.
I disagree with colleagues about the spending on a works and parks garage and yard.
I do not challenge their authority to make the decision according to judgement and conscience.
They were elected to do so.Now that we are required to appoint to fill a vacant seat...I believe the logical choice should be a person who has previously won sufficient votes to occupy a seat. Who left undefeated. Who has continued to attend Council meetings and stay on top of current events and is willing to accept appointment.
I do not know how he would vote on the Joint facility. I have not asked. Nor would it be appropriate for me to do so.
I believe he would be an acceptable choice to a majority of residents.
Since the Strategic Plan is the reason given for the extravagant joint facility I believe I know how Ms Harris would vote.
I also believe that vote would be the reason for her appointment .
Also the reason for going through a cruel hoax with a pretext of an election.
I would not ordinarily choose to make this choice.
Since the choice is forced upon me...that's my thinking on the matter.
"A person who has never held public office. Has never competed in an election. May not even be known by many, may cast the deciding vote that plunges the municipality into mega millions of dollars of debt."
Is it better that some with experience on council cast the vote to plunges the municipality into mega millions of dollars of debt.
Posted by Anonymous to Our Town and Its Business at 21 July 2014 08:36
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This is an interesting question. What would be better?
It would be better if the vacant seat need not be occupied at this late date.
Someone asked about cost to the municipality? A Councillor salary for four months.
There is not enough time to have an experience Council, Certainly not enough to become familiar with the operation of a public institution. No time at all to determine how it differs from private business function .
Certainly not nearly enough time to win confidence of taxpayers.
Never enough time to know if a person could ever win sufficient votes to have authority for decisionsq on behalf of others.
Until the start of the next term,every Councillor has been given that authority by the voters.
I disagree with colleagues about the spending on a works and parks garage and yard.
I do not challenge their authority to make the decision according to judgement and conscience.
They were elected to do so.Now that we are required to appoint to fill a vacant seat...I believe the logical choice should be a person who has previously won sufficient votes to occupy a seat. Who left undefeated. Who has continued to attend Council meetings and stay on top of current events and is willing to accept appointment.
I do not know how he would vote on the Joint facility. I have not asked. Nor would it be appropriate for me to do so.
I believe he would be an acceptable choice to a majority of residents.
Since the Strategic Plan is the reason given for the extravagant joint facility I believe I know how Ms Harris would vote.
I also believe that vote would be the reason for her appointment .
Also the reason for going through a cruel hoax with a pretext of an election.
I would not ordinarily choose to make this choice.
Since the choice is forced upon me...that's my thinking on the matter.
Trees Removal Without A Permit
On Tuesday ,a recommendation to spend $90.thousand on a short leg of sidewalk was on the agenda.
It stretches from Yonge Street ,on the north side of Golf Links Drive, to the western edge of the double driveway of Highland Green Condominiums.
It includes that double driveway of Tim Horton's drive-thru.
A berm and mature trees screen the drive -thru from the multiple storey senior residence
on the south side of the road . They would be a requiremed by the town to allow a drive-thru to be in that location .
they will have to be removed to accommodate the sidewalk.
The front pedestrian entrance of the condominium is serviced already by Yonge Street sidewalk south to the signalized intersection.
The south side of Golf Links Driveway is serviced throughout it's length by sidewalk.Paid for by the developer no doubt.
That side of the donut shop parking lot is often busy with young people and their cars. It's a
gathering place.
There are a number of reasons why it's not a good place for a sidewalk besides those noted above. But the story of how it came about is even more interesting.
Tomorrow I will count the number of trees to be removed.
It's not mentioned in the report.
It stretches from Yonge Street ,on the north side of Golf Links Drive, to the western edge of the double driveway of Highland Green Condominiums.
It includes that double driveway of Tim Horton's drive-thru.
A berm and mature trees screen the drive -thru from the multiple storey senior residence
on the south side of the road . They would be a requiremed by the town to allow a drive-thru to be in that location .
they will have to be removed to accommodate the sidewalk.
The front pedestrian entrance of the condominium is serviced already by Yonge Street sidewalk south to the signalized intersection.
The south side of Golf Links Driveway is serviced throughout it's length by sidewalk.Paid for by the developer no doubt.
That side of the donut shop parking lot is often busy with young people and their cars. It's a
gathering place.
There are a number of reasons why it's not a good place for a sidewalk besides those noted above. But the story of how it came about is even more interesting.
Tomorrow I will count the number of trees to be removed.
It's not mentioned in the report.
Sunday, 20 July 2014
A New Age ... "The Fourth Revolution" At The Grass Roots
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "It's Not Corruption":
I agree with both Evelyn & the person making that comment. But if you look at it another way, we have been most fortunate to avoid some very expensive follies.
I agree with both Evelyn & the person making that comment. But if you look at it another way, we have been most fortunate to avoid some very expensive follies.
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Yes ...that is a positive aspect; more so because I don't think it was random.
The internet means people are more fully informed and more involved in the process.
It seems Councillors did hear, paid attention and did get off the roller coaster .
The Mayor ,first to promote the heritage park fantasy with his title on the list of supporters, may have said what he did to save face ,when he had to cast a vote in opposition.
He said first there is no benefit to the town and then .....I still think it's a good idea.
Before the internet, a politician could make two completely contradictory statements in ak single sentence and get a pass.
People do not re-call what they hear. Only an impression of what was said .
When it's written that's a different exchange.
When it's written that's a different exchange.
That's the difference . Politics can't be done the same old way.
People can be take a more confident position because they are more certain of what they know.
I don't give info that can't be validated I don't tell people what to think, They decide.
There's, a consequence.
People power headed off the various catastrophies.
We are in a new age and I am pleased to be a part of it.
It's Not Corruption
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Here's A Thought":
The Town of Aurora, according to a Media Release dated June 28, 2012, "approves Strategic Plan" - it runs to the year 2031.
It has "three Primary Goals and a number of key objectives to support a vision for The Town of Aurora as an 'innovative and sustainable community where neighbours care and businesses thrive."
There are a lot of pretty pictures in the 24 page document and all sorts of altruistic statements, objectives, dreams, prayers.
The Plan is to be reviewed every five years in order to make adjustments to the successes or failures.
Like all such documents it is a waste of money. The town will advance in small increments as its needs arise, and having a Strategic Plan hanging overhead will not advance Aurora.
So to those who have worked so diligently in the creation of this document I say thank you but your
time was totally wasted and you certainly don't get any brownie points for any possible future endeavours.
Better luck next time.
But I do have a possibly dumb question. Since this Plan was announced just over two years ago, what
has been been accomplished
Posted by Anonymous to Our Town and Its Business at 20 July 2014 12:58
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Quite a lot has happened. Little of it accomplished by the town however.The July 1st Parade and Santa Under The Stars always reveal new buildings in the downtown core.
North of Wellington and south of Mosely have changed dramatically.New buildings that can't be
distinguished fromold in the north and east side of Yonge. New commercial buildings blend in perfectly with commercial /retail in the south.
All of it private investment. None of it at the expense of the municipality.Applications continue.
Empty and ill-used spaces exist in the library area that call for town intervention.
The United Church has asked for heritage designation to be removed from the k church site. We may assume the Church's Board of Governors intends not to re-build on the site.
We lament the reason but it means opportunity for substantial renewal.The Church owns two houses between the site and Temperance Street.
It' s the reason I asked Council to seek joint organization meetings with the Church to contemplate
possibilities between us. But that was a no go. The Mayor has it in hand despite being without authority from Council.
It might have fitted with the Strategic Plan ? Obviously not with the Mayor's.
I mentioned before we had a Strategic Plan. It was a simple, straightforward,sensible realistic statement of goals and objectives. It needed nothing more than review and determination
of need for renewal and adjustment if needs be.
Instead we bought $80.thousand worth of bafflegab. We went further. We gave staff authority ti "implement "the plan
It resulted in several staff re-orgaisations that improved nothing. An army of managers were created.
$300 thousand was spent in preparations to re-locate town hall staff for additions and renovations to the town hLl that never took place. Estimates were well in excess of budget approved and the plan was cancelled even without council consideration.
The decision pending on surplus buildings on library square since several Council terms ago ,got to the stage of to demolish.That was deferred to consider using the old library as a Fab lab in keeping with the Strategic Plan.
It never happened .Neither did the staff recommendation that arose from Council direction and time and resources and public input expended.....and wasted.
We spent months of financial and staff resources following the will o' the whisp scheme to spend $11 million of Hydro Reserves on a sham of a Fantasy heritage park that came to nought and still it seems the Mayor sees it as a positive plank in his re-election platform.
The list is endless.
Not the least is the intention to decide to spend nigh on $30 million of a joint works and parks garages and yards at the last meeting of Council before Candidate Registrations close.
After an elaborate scheme to hold a public selection for appointment to fill a vacant seat to guarantee a winning vote on the question.
Last Tuesday Council approved a recommendation to remove $814. thousand from the estimates.
it will still be spent on a scam of a "Snow Treatment Facility" but the contract has been divided so the amount can be discounted. From the whole.
It is all so puerile...so obvious... so pathetic....it is positively juvenile.
Readers may believe ....or not. The option is always there.
They should hope few will.
Because ...It is my perspective.......a damning Report on Stewardship.
I have previously cited a wise old saying seen on a poster in the Office of A Medical Officer of Health.
It's not corruption you have to worry about.
It' s stupidity.
The best that can be said is ...there has been no corruption..... But stupidity and wasteland been colossal
The Town of Aurora, according to a Media Release dated June 28, 2012, "approves Strategic Plan" - it runs to the year 2031.
It has "three Primary Goals and a number of key objectives to support a vision for The Town of Aurora as an 'innovative and sustainable community where neighbours care and businesses thrive."
There are a lot of pretty pictures in the 24 page document and all sorts of altruistic statements, objectives, dreams, prayers.
The Plan is to be reviewed every five years in order to make adjustments to the successes or failures.
Like all such documents it is a waste of money. The town will advance in small increments as its needs arise, and having a Strategic Plan hanging overhead will not advance Aurora.
So to those who have worked so diligently in the creation of this document I say thank you but your
time was totally wasted and you certainly don't get any brownie points for any possible future endeavours.
Better luck next time.
But I do have a possibly dumb question. Since this Plan was announced just over two years ago, what
has been been accomplished
Posted by Anonymous to Our Town and Its Business at 20 July 2014 12:58
*************
Quite a lot has happened. Little of it accomplished by the town however.The July 1st Parade and Santa Under The Stars always reveal new buildings in the downtown core.
North of Wellington and south of Mosely have changed dramatically.New buildings that can't be
distinguished fromold in the north and east side of Yonge. New commercial buildings blend in perfectly with commercial /retail in the south.
All of it private investment. None of it at the expense of the municipality.Applications continue.
Empty and ill-used spaces exist in the library area that call for town intervention.
The United Church has asked for heritage designation to be removed from the k church site. We may assume the Church's Board of Governors intends not to re-build on the site.
We lament the reason but it means opportunity for substantial renewal.The Church owns two houses between the site and Temperance Street.
It' s the reason I asked Council to seek joint organization meetings with the Church to contemplate
possibilities between us. But that was a no go. The Mayor has it in hand despite being without authority from Council.
It might have fitted with the Strategic Plan ? Obviously not with the Mayor's.
I mentioned before we had a Strategic Plan. It was a simple, straightforward,sensible realistic statement of goals and objectives. It needed nothing more than review and determination
of need for renewal and adjustment if needs be.
Instead we bought $80.thousand worth of bafflegab. We went further. We gave staff authority ti "implement "the plan
It resulted in several staff re-orgaisations that improved nothing. An army of managers were created.
$300 thousand was spent in preparations to re-locate town hall staff for additions and renovations to the town hLl that never took place. Estimates were well in excess of budget approved and the plan was cancelled even without council consideration.
The decision pending on surplus buildings on library square since several Council terms ago ,got to the stage of to demolish.That was deferred to consider using the old library as a Fab lab in keeping with the Strategic Plan.
It never happened .Neither did the staff recommendation that arose from Council direction and time and resources and public input expended.....and wasted.
We spent months of financial and staff resources following the will o' the whisp scheme to spend $11 million of Hydro Reserves on a sham of a Fantasy heritage park that came to nought and still it seems the Mayor sees it as a positive plank in his re-election platform.
The list is endless.
Not the least is the intention to decide to spend nigh on $30 million of a joint works and parks garages and yards at the last meeting of Council before Candidate Registrations close.
After an elaborate scheme to hold a public selection for appointment to fill a vacant seat to guarantee a winning vote on the question.
Last Tuesday Council approved a recommendation to remove $814. thousand from the estimates.
it will still be spent on a scam of a "Snow Treatment Facility" but the contract has been divided so the amount can be discounted. From the whole.
It is all so puerile...so obvious... so pathetic....it is positively juvenile.
Readers may believe ....or not. The option is always there.
They should hope few will.
Because ...It is my perspective.......a damning Report on Stewardship.
I have previously cited a wise old saying seen on a poster in the Office of A Medical Officer of Health.
It's not corruption you have to worry about.
It' s stupidity.
The best that can be said is ...there has been no corruption..... But stupidity and wasteland been colossal
The Tiki Party
I had another beautiful summer day with the family at Georgian Bay yesterday.
Mary and Steve host a tiki party at the cottage . it has been in Mary"s family for four generations now.
Mary's parents built it. Mary and her brother spent all their summers there. Their children never knew a time when the cottage wasn't part of their lives . Now family lore of another generation..
The Tiki Party is also part of the warp and weave when the family at large and friends of the family gather to enjoy the place and each other.
Five years old twin Reid is still asking the same question of different people.
Are you old.
It seems a neighbour's beloved dog died ? The ep,nation to Reid was the dog was old.
Reid has a great-grandmother. Moi.
He ha s cousins of his age.
His mother has cousins. Some have.children of his age.
Some are not much older than he is and they are great playmates who carry him about play games and cuddle when he feels like it.
One of his kother's cousins is obviously an adult but she's great fun and the wail goes up;
"Are you leaving Stephanie"
Reid is obviously having a hard time understanding "old" in it"s proper context.He keeps trying.
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So...we have someone who hopes for some more progressive minded Members in the next Council.
the town spent $25 thousand on a consultant study which indicated no merit in town involvement in a hEritage Park project.
A sunshine list Special Project Manager spent several weeks of his time on the project.
A mager if economic development spent his time on the project.
The Director of Parks and recreation..not Leisure Services...they took that responsibility away from him ...was directed to prepare a feasibility study on the project. The ChO spent his initiative on the project.
Almost the entire Council pronounced their support for the project.
In the end , it came to nought.
A consultant study at a cost if $25,000 said....Don't do it. there's nothing in it for the town.
I believe the vote not to proceed was unanimous .
But the last word was with the Mayor.
Discussion ended with his comment that he still believe it was a good idea.
Since candidates started registering, I have been hearing the idea is not dead. The proponents have been heard to state the project has simply been shelved for the time being.
Now what would that be about?
Winning votes perhaps ? Or losing them?
What would Reid, my five year old great grandson make of this conundrum?
Commitments being made perhaps....by one or both candidates for Mayor.
If by one.... choice is presented . If by two.....no choice is available.
Will it form part of a platform.?
Or a wraith in the shadows that remains to take shape
Mary and Steve host a tiki party at the cottage . it has been in Mary"s family for four generations now.
Mary's parents built it. Mary and her brother spent all their summers there. Their children never knew a time when the cottage wasn't part of their lives . Now family lore of another generation..
The Tiki Party is also part of the warp and weave when the family at large and friends of the family gather to enjoy the place and each other.
Five years old twin Reid is still asking the same question of different people.
Are you old.
It seems a neighbour's beloved dog died ? The ep,nation to Reid was the dog was old.
Reid has a great-grandmother. Moi.
He ha s cousins of his age.
His mother has cousins. Some have.children of his age.
Some are not much older than he is and they are great playmates who carry him about play games and cuddle when he feels like it.
One of his kother's cousins is obviously an adult but she's great fun and the wail goes up;
"Are you leaving Stephanie"
Reid is obviously having a hard time understanding "old" in it"s proper context.He keeps trying.
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So...we have someone who hopes for some more progressive minded Members in the next Council.
the town spent $25 thousand on a consultant study which indicated no merit in town involvement in a hEritage Park project.
A sunshine list Special Project Manager spent several weeks of his time on the project.
A mager if economic development spent his time on the project.
The Director of Parks and recreation..not Leisure Services...they took that responsibility away from him ...was directed to prepare a feasibility study on the project. The ChO spent his initiative on the project.
Almost the entire Council pronounced their support for the project.
In the end , it came to nought.
A consultant study at a cost if $25,000 said....Don't do it. there's nothing in it for the town.
I believe the vote not to proceed was unanimous .
But the last word was with the Mayor.
Discussion ended with his comment that he still believe it was a good idea.
Since candidates started registering, I have been hearing the idea is not dead. The proponents have been heard to state the project has simply been shelved for the time being.
Now what would that be about?
Winning votes perhaps ? Or losing them?
What would Reid, my five year old great grandson make of this conundrum?
Commitments being made perhaps....by one or both candidates for Mayor.
If by one.... choice is presented . If by two.....no choice is available.
Will it form part of a platform.?
Or a wraith in the shadows that remains to take shape
Saturday, 19 July 2014
Life Is Full Of Surprises.
I have a minute and a little story to tell. The Tacoma twins and brother Lane are here for their the annual Canadian sojourn with grand-daughter and mother Vanessa .
We have not been together since last summer.
Reid climbed up on my knee and stared intently into my face.
Were you ever a kid, he asked.
I was...I assured him.
He poked a finger into my cheek and said ....Are you going to die.?
Yes , I answered , and you will too when the time comes.
End of conversation.
He climbed down and wandered off to contemplate some other of life's great questions.
We were at Number Two Son" place for a family gathering.
Reid's twin Claire enjoyed riding around with me on my scooter.
At one point she held up her thumb to show me
her painted finger--nail.
Look Great-Grannie,,she said ....they always give me my full title....like yours .
I will write a post about the day when I have more time.
It ended with son Frank giving us a concert . He sings and plays exceptionL guitar.
We were all around the camp fire . It was already dark.
The horses had already retired to the barn for the night.
We became aware they'd come back out and were clustered by the fence enjoying the music.
There's always something in life to marvel about.
We have not been together since last summer.
Reid climbed up on my knee and stared intently into my face.
Were you ever a kid, he asked.
I was...I assured him.
He poked a finger into my cheek and said ....Are you going to die.?
Yes , I answered , and you will too when the time comes.
End of conversation.
He climbed down and wandered off to contemplate some other of life's great questions.
We were at Number Two Son" place for a family gathering.
Reid's twin Claire enjoyed riding around with me on my scooter.
At one point she held up her thumb to show me
her painted finger--nail.
Look Great-Grannie,,she said ....they always give me my full title....like yours .
I will write a post about the day when I have more time.
It ended with son Frank giving us a concert . He sings and plays exceptionL guitar.
We were all around the camp fire . It was already dark.
The horses had already retired to the barn for the night.
We became aware they'd come back out and were clustered by the fence enjoying the music.
There's always something in life to marvel about.
Friday, 18 July 2014
Here's A Thought
I think the tedious,lugubrious process of election by Council in which candidates ,all but one, are publicly rejected, and humiliated , is a sham.
A Canard... A Charade... A Cabal.....A Cruel trick perpetrated upon those who accept the town's invitation and in good faith put their names forward to be considered for the vacancy.
I believe : 'tis a foul and pestilential deception calculated to lull the masses into believing ,all is bright and beautiful, open and transparent.
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Altogether now ...repeat after me.
Witches All
Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn, and caldron bubble.
2 WITCH. Fillet of a fenny snake,
In the caldron boil and bake;
Eye of newt, and toe of frog,
Wool of bat, and tongue of dog,
Adder's fork, and blind-worm's sting,
Lizard's leg, and owlet's wing,—
For a charm of powerful trouble,
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble.
ALL. Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn, and caldron bubble.
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I do not accept staff advice that council cannot make an appointment to fill the vacant Council seat without going through the lugubrious process of publicly rejecting and humiliating all but one candidate in the phoney -baloney contrived election.
Richmond Hill used the format in December, we were told.
RIchmond Hill could have held a by-election in December.
After the election by politicians , controversy ensued. The winner ,it was said, was the Mayor's candidate of choice.
I believe that was probable and more than likely.
I aalso believe we are about to see it repeated in Aurora.
Staff advise we have until August 23rd to fill the vacancy.
An "election " followed by an Appointment Bylaw is planned for July 29th.
All wrapped up neat and tidy. No matter how many candidates are on the roster.
We are in summer recess. One meeting a month.
Why the hurry to fill a seat that will seldom be occupied?
Ah yes you might well ask. And therein lies a clue.
The Joint Operation Centre contract award will be on the Agenda of the August meeting.
Why is that important?
Because the estimate is almost $ 27 million.
The financing plan does not have unanimous approval.
If bids are substantially higher than estimates, someone on the yea side might get cold feet.
We are on the eve of an election.
Not optimum time to be dealing with a price tag of this magnitude.
Never a good time to approve a horrendous expenditure without full or close to full support of council.
Former Councillor Ballard was on the nay side
A Yea vote in the erstwhile Nay seat, improves the odds of project approval and public acceptance.
And might also provide support to a wavering Councillor. Safety in numbers and all that jazz.
So how might success be achieved?
Certainly not by leaving that vote to chance .
Marilee Harris is a candidate for the vacant seat. As a member of the Economic Development
Committee, the lady lays claim to the magic formula of the Strategic Plan, the document that cost $80 thousand and promises untold wealth and an "exceptional quality of life for all"
Sort of like Jack and The Beanstalk
Ms Harris is quoted as professing interest in what there is to learn in the waning hours of the current term.
By September 12th all ranks will be in election mode. Until October 27th , not much happening at the Old Town Hall.
My bet says Ms Harris already has the votes lined up for appointment to the idle seat.
A person who has never held public office. Has never competed in an election. May not even be known by many, may cast the deciding vote that plunges the municipality into mega millions of dollars of debt.
A Canard... A Charade... A Cabal.....A Cruel trick perpetrated upon those who accept the town's invitation and in good faith put their names forward to be considered for the vacancy.
I believe : 'tis a foul and pestilential deception calculated to lull the masses into believing ,all is bright and beautiful, open and transparent.
*********+*******************
Altogether now ...repeat after me.
Witches All
Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn, and caldron bubble.
2 WITCH. Fillet of a fenny snake,
In the caldron boil and bake;
Eye of newt, and toe of frog,
Wool of bat, and tongue of dog,
Adder's fork, and blind-worm's sting,
Lizard's leg, and owlet's wing,—
For a charm of powerful trouble,
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble.
ALL. Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn, and caldron bubble.
****************************
I do not accept staff advice that council cannot make an appointment to fill the vacant Council seat without going through the lugubrious process of publicly rejecting and humiliating all but one candidate in the phoney -baloney contrived election.
Richmond Hill used the format in December, we were told.
RIchmond Hill could have held a by-election in December.
After the election by politicians , controversy ensued. The winner ,it was said, was the Mayor's candidate of choice.
I believe that was probable and more than likely.
I aalso believe we are about to see it repeated in Aurora.
Staff advise we have until August 23rd to fill the vacancy.
An "election " followed by an Appointment Bylaw is planned for July 29th.
All wrapped up neat and tidy. No matter how many candidates are on the roster.
We are in summer recess. One meeting a month.
Why the hurry to fill a seat that will seldom be occupied?
Ah yes you might well ask. And therein lies a clue.
The Joint Operation Centre contract award will be on the Agenda of the August meeting.
Why is that important?
Because the estimate is almost $ 27 million.
The financing plan does not have unanimous approval.
If bids are substantially higher than estimates, someone on the yea side might get cold feet.
We are on the eve of an election.
Not optimum time to be dealing with a price tag of this magnitude.
Never a good time to approve a horrendous expenditure without full or close to full support of council.
Former Councillor Ballard was on the nay side
A Yea vote in the erstwhile Nay seat, improves the odds of project approval and public acceptance.
And might also provide support to a wavering Councillor. Safety in numbers and all that jazz.
So how might success be achieved?
Certainly not by leaving that vote to chance .
Marilee Harris is a candidate for the vacant seat. As a member of the Economic Development
Committee, the lady lays claim to the magic formula of the Strategic Plan, the document that cost $80 thousand and promises untold wealth and an "exceptional quality of life for all"
Sort of like Jack and The Beanstalk
Ms Harris is quoted as professing interest in what there is to learn in the waning hours of the current term.
By September 12th all ranks will be in election mode. Until October 27th , not much happening at the Old Town Hall.
My bet says Ms Harris already has the votes lined up for appointment to the idle seat.
A person who has never held public office. Has never competed in an election. May not even be known by many, may cast the deciding vote that plunges the municipality into mega millions of dollars of debt.
Thursday, 17 July 2014
Sometimes ,they're just little things
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "So Soon Forgotten...or Never Understood ?":
I thought you were not going to post disparaging comments about your fellow councillors? Does Thompson not count?
Posted by Anonymous to Our Town and Its Business at 17 July 2014 14:26
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Councillor Thompson certainly counts. It seems though we may have different ideas about what is disparaging to a Councillor.
My reference was to failure to observed rules of order. I hardly call that disparaging. Any Councilor can find themselves in that situation . We are not robots. That's. why we have rules of order and a Presiding Member whose role it is to maintain the rules.
If the Presiding Member has no experience things are quite likely to go off the rails fast.
The only way to learn is by practice . It's not easy when the Chair himself has little sense of
pitfalls.
When a Councillor is criticized,chances are a reaction will trigger. Before you know it mayhem erupts.
We've seen eruptions in foreign parliaments with members
throwing things at each other and lunging over desks to get at each other's throats.
We've not seen the like in Canada But one memorable occasion the Honorable Sheila Copps went over the desks to get at The Honorable John Crosby for a denigrating remark against her.
I myself have been accused ofunruly behavior . it was an attempt at humor that fell flat.
I'm not sure what's worse unruly conduct or failed humor..
It led to my finest performance when I apologized and my friend Ron Wallace of forty-five years graciously accepted . The Council chamber was full that night and we received. a hearty round of applause which made the whole episode worthwhile.
Being a member of a Council that works well together is a very satisfying experience. It doesn't mean everyone has to think the same.
It does mean everyone has to be able to express true thoughts and convictions without being afraid of offending someone else's sensitivities.
If it happens inadvertently there's a remedy.
It really is a skill worth learning. The Chair and Councillors with experience. Are usual models.
As has been noted, this Council has been short on both.The rules are not well understood.
I find myself against the glass age barrier. They see my lips moving but don't hear what I'm saying.
The blog is my second chance to make a difference.?.....poking with a pointy stick.
When Councillors read what the community reads and the community reaction I hope for better understanding.
We have a common purpose is serve the interest of the people who sent us.
Working at odds doesn't cut it.
For a majority to agree on a position before coming to the table is not my idea of a cohesive unit.
Outside of council there's a common belief that's how politics work.
It is not . Things do not get accomplished .
There's nothing in government like the satisfaction of working together and moving the municipality forward.
When something is right ....it's easy to recognize.. Takinggratuitous
I kept hoping. .....
I thought you were not going to post disparaging comments about your fellow councillors? Does Thompson not count?
Posted by Anonymous to Our Town and Its Business at 17 July 2014 14:26
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Councillor Thompson certainly counts. It seems though we may have different ideas about what is disparaging to a Councillor.
My reference was to failure to observed rules of order. I hardly call that disparaging. Any Councilor can find themselves in that situation . We are not robots. That's. why we have rules of order and a Presiding Member whose role it is to maintain the rules.
If the Presiding Member has no experience things are quite likely to go off the rails fast.
The only way to learn is by practice . It's not easy when the Chair himself has little sense of
pitfalls.
When a Councillor is criticized,chances are a reaction will trigger. Before you know it mayhem erupts.
We've seen eruptions in foreign parliaments with members
throwing things at each other and lunging over desks to get at each other's throats.
We've not seen the like in Canada But one memorable occasion the Honorable Sheila Copps went over the desks to get at The Honorable John Crosby for a denigrating remark against her.
I myself have been accused ofunruly behavior . it was an attempt at humor that fell flat.
I'm not sure what's worse unruly conduct or failed humor..
It led to my finest performance when I apologized and my friend Ron Wallace of forty-five years graciously accepted . The Council chamber was full that night and we received. a hearty round of applause which made the whole episode worthwhile.
Being a member of a Council that works well together is a very satisfying experience. It doesn't mean everyone has to think the same.
It does mean everyone has to be able to express true thoughts and convictions without being afraid of offending someone else's sensitivities.
If it happens inadvertently there's a remedy.
It really is a skill worth learning. The Chair and Councillors with experience. Are usual models.
As has been noted, this Council has been short on both.The rules are not well understood.
I find myself against the glass age barrier. They see my lips moving but don't hear what I'm saying.
The blog is my second chance to make a difference.?.....poking with a pointy stick.
When Councillors read what the community reads and the community reaction I hope for better understanding.
We have a common purpose is serve the interest of the people who sent us.
Working at odds doesn't cut it.
For a majority to agree on a position before coming to the table is not my idea of a cohesive unit.
Outside of council there's a common belief that's how politics work.
It is not . Things do not get accomplished .
There's nothing in government like the satisfaction of working together and moving the municipality forward.
When something is right ....it's easy to recognize.. Takinggratuitous
I kept hoping. .....
A Question of Expenses
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "So Soon Forgotten...or Never Understood ?":
Heck, I'm still trying to figure out why Duffy has been charged over that $90,000 and Nigel Wright is left out of it. It's alright to give the money but not to take it ?
Posted by Anonymous to Our Town and Its Business at 17 July 2014 11:54
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Nigel Wright was said to have made a gift from his own private funds to Duffy to help him pay the government back for travel claims improperly claimed.
That would reinforce my impression of why Duffy was appointed and his understanding of his role .
His national image and skills in communication would be invaluable to the Prime mInister if they could get away with charging the government for the cost.
Pamela Wallen returned several hundred thousand without a gift from the Prime Minister's chief of staff.
Federal candidates do get support from the public treasury if they receive over a certain percentage of the vote cast
Heck, I'm still trying to figure out why Duffy has been charged over that $90,000 and Nigel Wright is left out of it. It's alright to give the money but not to take it ?
Posted by Anonymous to Our Town and Its Business at 17 July 2014 11:54
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Nigel Wright was said to have made a gift from his own private funds to Duffy to help him pay the government back for travel claims improperly claimed.
That would reinforce my impression of why Duffy was appointed and his understanding of his role .
His national image and skills in communication would be invaluable to the Prime mInister if they could get away with charging the government for the cost.
Pamela Wallen returned several hundred thousand without a gift from the Prime Minister's chief of staff.
Federal candidates do get support from the public treasury if they receive over a certain percentage of the vote cast
About Funds Raised and not spent
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "So Soon Forgotten...or Never Understood ?":
@22:20
A question for you. If Gallo flips & runs for councillor, does he have to return money collected for his
run for Mayor.
Posted by Anonymous to Our Town and Its Business at 17 July 2014 1
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I can't see why.
I understand he is currently registered as candidate for Mayor. If he changes his mind and registers as a candidate for Council, a second registration fee must be paid.
The first fee will not be returned to him until after the election.
Funds collected for election must be declared in a declaration of financial expenses after the election. There's a time limit for the statement to be submitted to the election officer.
Any funds collected and not spent in the election must be deposited with the municipality.
They can be used in a future election.. If not ,the municipality is legally entitled to abscond with the proceeds.
I don't know why that is. Unlike senior levels, the Municipality contributes nothing to municipal candidate election expense.
@22:20
A question for you. If Gallo flips & runs for councillor, does he have to return money collected for his
run for Mayor.
Posted by Anonymous to Our Town and Its Business at 17 July 2014 1
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I can't see why.
I understand he is currently registered as candidate for Mayor. If he changes his mind and registers as a candidate for Council, a second registration fee must be paid.
The first fee will not be returned to him until after the election.
Funds collected for election must be declared in a declaration of financial expenses after the election. There's a time limit for the statement to be submitted to the election officer.
Any funds collected and not spent in the election must be deposited with the municipality.
They can be used in a future election.. If not ,the municipality is legally entitled to abscond with the proceeds.
I don't know why that is. Unlike senior levels, the Municipality contributes nothing to municipal candidate election expense.
The Wisdom of Solomon....a King no less
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "So Soon Forgotten...or Never Understood ?":
I have just about concluded that we don't really need the October election.
Let's stick with the incompetents we have rather than risk a different bunch, or half a bunch or whatever fraction. Sometimes it's best to take what you know than risk everything for the unknown.
Gallo will be gone unless he changes his mind and runs for council and whoever council picks on the 29th to fill Ballard's seat should fill it permanently. So we only need to replace Gallo. No one whose name ends in "o"
Posted by Anonymous to Our Town and Its Business at 16 July 2014 22:20
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Excepting the final thought, the comment might have come from a person of my own vintage. If from a person of later generation,it gives me heart.
Except for inexperience in the Mayor's office, the current Council is as typical as any that might be chosen in an election.
It's why incumbents have always had an edge except when voters are really outraged.
Majority rule is no guarantee decisions are always right.
But whether they are or not, It's better than a dictatorship
In my wildest dreams ,I prefer dictatorship but only if I can be the dictator.
The Wisdom of Solomon is often cited for guidance in decision-making.
His idea of settling a dispute between two women claiming the same baby was to divide the child in two and give half to each.
The facts are suspect.
How could two women be mistaken about being mother of a single child.?
If there was only one child, there could. only be one mother.
Any mother can verify the feat is not accomplished without obvious changes. Oh dear me....no. Someone must have noticed.
Fatherhood now, that's a different kettle of fish. In Solomon's time, no DNA .
I think a conference of Rabbis were sitting around a picnic table discussing weighty issues and one of them offered up ....Here's one for the Book.
Such a mechugana idea for settling a dispute.
But our question of the day......Was it dictatorship ? Monarchy? Or majority rule?
Will we ever know the truth of it ?
I have just about concluded that we don't really need the October election.
Let's stick with the incompetents we have rather than risk a different bunch, or half a bunch or whatever fraction. Sometimes it's best to take what you know than risk everything for the unknown.
Gallo will be gone unless he changes his mind and runs for council and whoever council picks on the 29th to fill Ballard's seat should fill it permanently. So we only need to replace Gallo. No one whose name ends in "o"
Posted by Anonymous to Our Town and Its Business at 16 July 2014 22:20
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Excepting the final thought, the comment might have come from a person of my own vintage. If from a person of later generation,it gives me heart.
Except for inexperience in the Mayor's office, the current Council is as typical as any that might be chosen in an election.
It's why incumbents have always had an edge except when voters are really outraged.
Majority rule is no guarantee decisions are always right.
But whether they are or not, It's better than a dictatorship
In my wildest dreams ,I prefer dictatorship but only if I can be the dictator.
The Wisdom of Solomon is often cited for guidance in decision-making.
His idea of settling a dispute between two women claiming the same baby was to divide the child in two and give half to each.
The facts are suspect.
How could two women be mistaken about being mother of a single child.?
If there was only one child, there could. only be one mother.
Any mother can verify the feat is not accomplished without obvious changes. Oh dear me....no. Someone must have noticed.
Fatherhood now, that's a different kettle of fish. In Solomon's time, no DNA .
I think a conference of Rabbis were sitting around a picnic table discussing weighty issues and one of them offered up ....Here's one for the Book.
Such a mechugana idea for settling a dispute.
But our question of the day......Was it dictatorship ? Monarchy? Or majority rule?
Will we ever know the truth of it ?