"Cowardice asks the question...is it safe? Expediency asks the question...is it politic? Vanity asks the question...is it popular? But conscience asks the question...is it right? And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular but one must take it because it is right." ~Dr. Martin Luther King

Tuesday 29 April 2014

The Virus Flourishes

Yesterday I confessed to writing a harshly criticall letter about John  McIntyre.

I said I may regret it. Or I may not.

I already do. I indulged the dark side. Everybody has one. It's just not good to let it loose.

There's no telling when the harm may end.

So...I'm stopping it now.

Yesterday a commenter went to a lot of trouble checkking tree prices and suggesting  staff estimates
for replacing boulevard trees are out of line.

Last  night I read the staff report.

It cost $350. to remove a stump from the ground. Because  of limited space  and utilities replacements have to go into the exact spot the dead trees occupied.

The trees were thirty years old. Replacements have to be sizeable. Bigger trees cost more.

The ice storm was a catastrophe and now we are having to pay the price.

It's great that citizens participate in  discussion by way of  blog.  If that is  the only advantage of publishing, it  is well worth while.

$88,000 is a substantial sum. Council has a decision to make.

We can do it or not. We can do part of it. We can plant smaller trees. But whatever we plant has to be
planted properly. We can't  plant without removing the stumps.

 It's an expensive  process.

I have the mother of all stumps in my yard that I can't afford to remove. The  tree  was cut down before the ice storm and that was expensive.  I hate to look at dead branches .

But here's the thing. Council  has just directed staff to treat  park Ash trees against  Emerald Ash Borer at a cost of $38,000.

Staff did not advise it. The idea was suggested by an advisory committee  member.

Councillor Gallo ,Ballard and Gaertner feel citizen commitee members suggestions should  be  adopted because they are volunteers.  People can't be asked to volunteer and then disregarded.

EAB treatment costs $145. a tree.

All trees but one destroyed in the ices storm were ash .  Genetic treatment  for fast growth may have contributed to weakness.  Thirty-eight  were treated last year  at a cost of $5,500. The investment was wiped out by the ice storm .

$38.000 has been approved to treat ash trees in the parks. Another ice storm could  destroy all of them .

Emerald Ash borers are not the only villainous contributors to the plan.

$38,000 almost covers  the cost of removing  stumps to allow replacement  of boulevard trees.

Staff are the contact with  residents  Their advice to Council is to replace boulevard trees.

Should staff  or volunteers advise?

Should  Council  or volunteers decide?

Like Councillor Ballard, Councilllor Gallo  and Gaertner  took lessons  from their master.

And  like the Emerald Ash Borer , the infestation continues to thrive.

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

It was weird that all of trees destroyed were ash.
I agree with you that the trees to be replaced will be costly and can see a justification for a planed orderly job of completing the project.
I do not agree with treating the park ash trees. We have plenty of good healthy trees in the parks. Treating the ashes is simply not cost-worthy.
Ah, but it is an election year ---the ashes will have to be done.

Anonymous said...

Hey, Evelyn, I am sorry that I won't see your letter. Still, it is quite possible that someone else has responded to Mr McIntyre's slap-shot.

Anonymous said...


There is only one question that needs to be asked once we understand the technicalities presented by staff/experts - can we afford the expenditure? That is, can the job be done within the overall Town budget. No room to wait until year end and ask the treasure to calculate a tax increase to meet spending.

I would prefer to see one inch saplings planted by Town staff if this is required to meet spending targets.

Anonymous said...

Take a drive around most streets that were assumed in the last 20 years or so. Most of the trees are ashes. Most were not planted properly (too shallow) and are now listing with the prevailing winds. Some of the ash trees that the ice claimed were going to go soon because they had a huge lean.

Ash trees were cheap and were relatively easy to grow. Unfortunitly, when they are planted in a hole about 3 feet deep with nothing but clay soil, they are not going to last.

Anonymous said...


Does the town possess its own tree spade and what size is it?

When planting trees one usually buys them from a company that grows them and they will have tree spades in several sizes, depending on size if tree.

It the town is going to purchase 125 trees presumably the supplier will have a tree spade and likely this can be used to remove the remains of the dead tree.

From figures I have seen assuming the use of a tree spade to remove the trunk and roots the number is much lower than $350 per dead tree.

Can you check into this? Thanks.

Anonymous said...

12:13
" spending targets " ? Surely you jest. The town is talking about deficit spending.

Anonymous said...

I think consideration should be made to emphasizing that committees are " advisory ". Too many lame-brain, expensive ideas have morphed out of control from the current ones.

Anonymous said...

12:13- Of course there’s not enough money in the budget. There’s never enough. 3.75% increase this year…Don’t want to even guess what next year will be.

Anonymous said...


The Director of Parks said that the replacement trees are going to be 2" diameter and 10-12' high.

I have a few SPECIFIC questions:

1. What variety/varieties of tree are going to be planted?

2. What is the cost per tree delivered to the site?

3. What is the cost of planting each tree?

4. What is the cost of removing the dead tree stump/roots?

Ash trees are the absolute worst variety of tree to use for the application for which they were planted. They are tall and fragile and even a good wind will damage them, not to speak of a layer of ice. Drive on Bayview south of the Stouffville Road and you will see hundreds of ash trees that have been decimated, many of them in deeply wooded areas, not open and exposed as were ours.

Anonymous said...

Wow is 12:14 quite the authority on Aurora's trees NOT!

Anonymous said...

21:42
I guess you are an aborist?

Anonymous said...

Evelyn
Can’t figure out what you may be regretting in regards to the letter in the Auroran. You really should read the quote at the top of you blog a little more often by Dr. Martin Luther King. :)