Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Separation of Political and Administrative":
Rules of order I feel are guidelines rather than hard and fast rules when it come to local government.
Was there any harm caused by Sandra's actions?
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The writer is misguided. Rules of order are legislated by bylaw for the purpose of completing corporate business in a timely and efficient manner.
Nine people are engaged in decision-making.
It's not possible without acceptance of a set of rules all agree to live by.
Rules should not stifle debate.
Rules must be fair to all.
Rules should be few, simple, straightforward and easily memorised.
Points of order to silence a point of view or prevent information from being brought forward do not contribute to good order. They feel like harassment.
Rules must be combined with even-handed judgment.
With social media at our finger tips, that which is not allowed to be said during a debate in council will effectively be broadcast elsewhere.
Without pros and cons, the essence of debate is lost.
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I caught a flash news item day before yesterday. An audit of Toronto's 311 phone service has revealed 21% of phone calls are lost. They get no response.
311 is apparently the number for citizen inquiries or communications with the city.
Two years ago, it cost the city $40million to implement and $20million to operate.
It sound like a Customer Service Gizmo that doesn't work.
You can call me an old-stick-in-the- mud. I have argued against a "customer service" system being introduced at great expense and lost the argument.
Funds have been expended and more will be. It's included in the budget.
I know of no problem with customer service that needed attention. People call the town office. If, for any reason, there is no response, they have eight Councillors and a Mayor available. Calls I receive are nothing I can't handle. I imagine most members would say the same.
We are a small town. We are not, in the foreseeable future, going to be anything but a small town
If we can't provide quality customer service to residents without buying an expensive "system" devised by some outfit with a crack sales pitch, something is seriously out of kilter and its not.
I don't care if Whitchurch-Stouffville and Newmarket are doing it.
I wonder if the severely critical audit report to Toronto Council means the system will be deemed to have created problems that weren't there in the first place?
How much of the taxpayers money will have been wasted?
What will it take to get out of the mess?
We are glad we don't live in Toronto . We should be able to influence the decisions to be made.
Friday, 18 November 2011
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All of this talk is becoming very boring.
Why don't you do something truly useful, something we could all enjoy?
Share some of your recipes with us.
Thanks, and have a great weekend.
The town is too small ! The former Mayor has taken
to hanging out 'volunteering' at our Seniors' Centre.
She smiles and smiles and keep shaking our hands.
Does she think we are stupid because we're older ?
Are there any older people who can scare here away ?
I'm still trying to get my hand cleansed.
yuck !
There you go again ,talking common sense, when are you ever going to learn !!
FYI
Morris and moneyed cronies running for council.Not for Profit will be the mantra.
Globe & Mail
A strong mayor needs a strong opposition.
How does that explain what happened here ? Don't
you love editorials ?
Deleting comments after you've decided to publish them sure doesn't look good.
The last time Phyllis Morris was a councillor, she and Nigel Keane spent the entire term creating disfunction so that they could run a mayoral campaign based on change.
Well even though far less than half of the ballots cast were in her favour, Phyllis was first past the post and change is what we got.
Four long years later the voters in this town finally had a say about her performance and now you tell me there is a move afoot to pursue this fiasco again?
Tilting at windmills went out with Don Quixote. What was that description of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result?
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