"Cowardice asks the question...is it safe? Expediency asks the question...is it politic? Vanity asks the question...is it popular? But conscience asks the question...is it right? And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular but one must take it because it is right." ~Dr. Martin Luther King

Monday 4 November 2013

A perfect example

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "What's the price of trust":

Not being privy to the written legal questions and/or argument submitted on the Town's behalf, presumably by the Town Solicitor, with possible outside legal consultation, it does indeed appear to be most unfortunate that the matter of the Board meeting in secret was not mentioned and therefore the Judge didn't know this.

If this a correct statement then a further submission should be made on behalf of the Town to the Superior Court.

Meetings in secret are only permitted under the Municipal Act for a few very specific reasons. The secret meetings of the Centre Board don't qualify.


The above comment is exactly what  I mean with the phrase "insufferably condescending and  patronizing"

It has nothing to do with snobbery. It has to do with a limited range of judgement.

The writer learned whereof he spoke from my post. Proceeds to challenge the veracity. Then states "if correct"  and cites the point of the post.

Like  it would kill him to acknowledge a person  of my lowly status might  be correct in facts and judgement.

It's the very substance of the glass ceiling.

He is not unintelligent. He   simply either needs to withhold  merit----hog it for himself ----or both.

The problem would not be the same if a string of letters followed  my name.

It would be a different . If I had the letters , the illusion  would be they make up for experience in the field and judgement.


Anonymous said...

Since there is a meeting tonight, perhaps you will be ' allowed ' to ask the solicitor a few key questions. If there is the slightest doubt about possible conflicts of interest, no councillors - including the Mayor - have any business at Centre meetings.
Looks like a bright very cold morning. Have a great day.

Anonymous said...

For someone with so much experience and self-proclaimed good judgement, you seem rather insecure about your lack of academic qualifications, and very touchy when your statements aren't unequivocally believed.

Anonymous said...

Did members of Council have the opportunity to see the Town's submission to the Superior Court?

If yes, someone should have raised the point that the Centre Board holds its meeting in secret and this should have been included in the submission.

Apparently "the judge didn't know. He wasn't told."

Council is deficient if it did not ensure that the fact of secret meetings was included for the judge's consideration and ultimate decision.

Had he known, his decision might have been the opposite of the one he made.

There does not appear to be either condescension or patronizing in the remark with which you take offence.

This is an important matter and seems to have been screwed up on the part of the Town, like it does in many instances.

I don't think that contributors to your blog act to withhold merit from you or wish to hog it for themselves.

Your blog offers the opportunity to make a comment on many issues, not just relating to Aurora.

Sometimes you agree, sometimes you don't. But personal sensitivity should not be a part of the conversation.

Anonymous said...

Is non-public the same as secret?

Anonymous said...


It appears that here non-public = secret.

There are lot's of Boards that hold their monthly meeting "in secret" and then have an AGM.

The reality is, most people would not attend a regular meeting - it's boring.

Anonymous said...

@ 15:27
If there is a meeting that only board members are aware of & are ' allowed ' to attend, that is more than a private meeting.
You are splitting hairs

Anonymous said...

OK 15:27
What kind of outfit has a secretary but cannot provide any minutes ? Had a chairman who claimed never to have heard anything about sustainability despite meeting with the Mayor of Aurora over a
secret ' period of meetings ? This despite the fact that the topic had been discussed on numerous occasions throughout the town ?
Really ?

Anonymous said...

12:10. My money is personal. So needless to say when I see it squandered I get sensitive. We’re having a tough time sustaining the services we have now and therefore taxes get raised…When I see the town adding new “services/programs with additional studies for more…. I get sensitive. When I hear I can’t listen in or hear what’s going on in a meeting that is being paid for with my money….I get sensitive. So happy that this blog exists, so that we can all be a part of all sorts of conversations.

Anonymous said...

22:36, to quote Cllr Buck, "I think you're too sensitive."