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Monday 2 February 2015

You Don't Say

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Think About It":

If some of you would stick your heads above the Aurora level for a while you would have read about the project that is underway with the DND.

The DND is going back to EVERY facility that they ever owned to review a possible contaminations. The big issue at most DND sites - especially militia used facilities - is LEAD.

LEAD, you say? Yep. What do you think is at the tip of most every rifle, sub-machine gun, and side-arm ammunition? That's right a lead bullet. During the WWII training facilities included small calibre rifle ranges (0.22 cal). The concept was simple, you shot from one end to the other where the targets were - the bullets went through the paper targets, hit the backwall and stayed there. In some cases they were scopped up, others - they were left.

This is the soil contamination.

Posted by Anonymous to Our Town and Its Business at 2 February 2015 at 11:34


Thank you.  This blog is always open to new and  useful information. The explanation makes sense.

That we should have been aware of DND activities doesn't quite . Our experience is the department tends to secrecy. Even to terms of a lease where staff are taken into confidence but not the people's representatives.

Are we to understand lead is lodged in the walls of the building . Or shot through walls and into the soil beyond.  How is there ground water contamination as stated in the listing.?

Do we understand the federal government  (vendor )was under no legal obligation to inform the municipal government (purchasor) before they fixed  and exacted a price of  $514,000.on a
property that had no value to the private sector?

Perhaps our eager beaver can  provide these answers as well.


Anonymous said...

There seems to be a great deal of information floating around to which we have no access. This over-sight is a biggie !!

Christopher Watts said...

Lead is not "the" soil contamination that this poster suggests. Perhaps if the poster would stick their own head down to the actual report here:

They would clearly see a complete listing for soil contamination.

Sure it includes Metal, metalloid, and organometallic, (lead is not specified) but also:

- PHCs (petroleum hydrocarbons)
- PAHs (polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbon)

and Other inorganics

Groundwater contaminants are also listed:

- PHCs (petroleum hydrocarbons)
- BTEXs (benzene, toluene, ethylbenzene, and xzylene)
- PAHs (polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbon)

Amounts of which would only be revealed by an Environmentals Site Assement (either phase 1 or 2) which the town has confirmed receipt of of but unwilling to disclose. Not sure if an F.O.I. would wrestle these details or not.

To reduce the issue to one of lead contamination alone is misleading.

Anonymous said...

I have to wonder who the eager beaver might be. We have to be careful not to accept " gifts " of information that might be inaccurate. Still it makes for interesting reading.

Anonymous said...


Careful who you believe when talking about DND.

Anonymous said...

I think a F.O.I. will work on anything not before the courts but not positive about it.

Anonymous said...

so.. spilled gasoline and spilled solvents.

Sounds like a garage.

I bet they used to service their jeeps, trucks and other vehciles there.